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April 6th, 2018, 11:03 PM | #32991 |
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April 7th, 2018, 02:23 AM | #32993 | |
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"Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Revelation 12:12). |
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April 7th, 2018, 02:26 AM | #32994 |
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At least it is a question of the character, how one does react on the question of dialogue. And not "Madrid" was wrong or not good counselled it was only Minister-President Mariano Rajoy who was wrong. And this Minister-President reacted with a incredible Police violence against peacefully Catalan citizen. Like a said: a question of the character. He is leading a minority government with his "Partido Popular", renamed from the "Alianza Popular" (founded 1976), an alliance with "Reforma Democrática", "Unión del Pueblo Español", "Acción Democrática Española", "Democracia Social", "Acción Regional", "Unión Social Popular", "Unión Nacional Española" and some very and some smaller groups to a supposedly "Center Right Party". Six of the seven parties were under leadership of former Minister-Presidents of the former General Franco dictatorship. So the "Alianza Popular" developed to a melting pot of former elites of the Franquismus, as long as they confess themselves to King Juan Carlos I. With the voices of the "Partitio Popular" confirmed some years ago Franco's honorary citizenship in (I think ) San Lorenzo de El Escorial. The sepulchral monument of General Franco in San Lorenzo de El Escorial Since years place of pilgrimage for Old- and Neo-Nazies, while the victims of this time is the appreciation denied. Well, I'm reflecting abut what would happen in the world, if Germany would have such a Mausoleum for Adolf Hitler ! :LOL: A country with such a poor accounting for the younger past; no wonder that Catalonia don't want to be a part of it.
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Sure, Franco was a very nasty piece of work indeed. But in the Spanish Civil War, about 40,000 foolish people joined the Republican side's International Brigades, thinking that because the Nationalists were so palpably bad people, it followed that the Republicans must be the good guys - not so. The Republicans were increasingly dominated by Communists of a particularly unpleasant type; George Orwell was one among many whom these characters attempted to terminate with extreme prejudice. History is rarely as clear-cut as people would like it to be; the actual Nazis are one of the few exceptions to this rule, so evil and so sick that no one can even attempt to excuse of mitigate their record, justly damned for eternity.
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And you confirmed this statement very well with your post, Scound ! Yes, half a Million dead alone in Spain are bagatelle of the about ~35 Million dead in Europe during WWII. And a countryman of you got a very different view. His name is Paul Preston and he is a historian. On 850 pages he described his different view at the time of 1935 - 1939 in his book. Also Bernd Rother (also historian) came to a very different view too. As an (impermissible) short version he came to the view, that Spain only at the end of the WWII - from appropriateness reasons - accepted the getaway of Jews. An for the Spanish Diplomats: in Germany itself it was never a problem with the flight, if you had as a Jew enough money. Of course that was not the way for the "average" Jew. Do you know the "Legion Condor" ?? And what was behind of that ? Spain was neutral - this is ridiculous, you know.
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Had Spain joined in when Hitler met Franco to negotiate for this in 1940 after the Fall of France, it would have been a terrible disaster for Britain and it was the one thing which could have made invasion of Britain achievable. A determined land assault on Gibraltar would have opened the Atlantic to Italian and Vichy French naval units and changed the naval balance in Hitler's favour. Britain's supply route to North America was already weakly defended and vulnerable; the loss of Gibraltar would have made this situation a lot worse. Britain's ambassador to Spain during this crucial time was Sir Samuel Hoare; not a very nice chap actually, with a pro-fascist and pro-appeasement peacetime track record. But these very traits made him useful as Britain's ambassador to Franco as he managed to establish quite good relations with Franco and his ministers on a personal level exactly when Franco and the Germans were falling out. Churchill and Hoare were personal enemies and Churchill sent Hoare to Spain mainly to get rid of him; but afterwards Churchill never denied that Hoare gave a really important service to Britain by helping to persuade Franco to stay out of the war.
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'Although Spanish caudillo Francisco Franco did not officially bring Spain into World War II on the side of Nazi Germany, he permitted volunteers to join the German Army (Wehrmacht) on the condition they would only fight against the Soviet Union on the Eastern Front, and not against the Western Allies or any Western European occupied populations.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Division#Origins |
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