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Old 03-16-2013, 11:53 AM   #101
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The 2003 Law is not retrospective

Walkabout uncut on British TV last year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007c5jl
I'm pretty sure it is retrospective, in the sense that the Protection Of Children Act 1978 applies to possession, exhibition or distribution of indecent images of children as well as creation. All the Sexual Offences Act 2003 did was change the definition of child from someone under 16 to someone under 18. But the boy in Walkabout also appears naked and was a child under either definition. So I guess the reason the BBC hasn't been prosecuted is because the nudity in Walkabout would not be regarded as indecent.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:27 PM   #102
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It's retroactive in that it does apply to material produced before 2003, but not retrospective in that it does not leave anyone open to prosecution for taking pictures that could not be taken today.

What is "Indecent" is still a matter for a court and therefore a jury. Walkabout has a BBFC "12" Certificate for the DVD, mainly for its portrayal of animals being killed and butchered* and for its two scenes of dead men hanging from trees (contextually in accordance with Aboriginal death rites.) These are genuinely disturbing images, unlike the assorted nudity which are genuinely cinematographic. There is one potentially pornographic shot early in the "Ecstacy" scene which has been masked by some post-production smoke and mirrors. It is all done in the best possible taste.


(*Animals were harmed in the making of this movie.)

You can still see orginal artwork for Blind Faith, Malcolm McLaren's Manet pastiche for Bow Wow Wow's "See Jungle..." with 15 year old Annabella Lwin, Nirvana's "Nevermind" and all the rest on Amazon and similar sites, and recently ITV3 showed Walt Disney's Pollyanna from 1960 the opening image of which is a close-up of a small boy's naked bottom as he dives into a lake.

The problem with this law with regard to wholly legitimate cinema is the scope of a Level 1 indecent image, the least serious offence, which is described as 'an erotic image of a child,' with no mention of nudity. It would be for a jury to decide, but the chilling effect on respectable cinema has been one of intimidation.
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This is, of course, an entirely different issue from what is permitted under the VEF rules.
Sure. The point is however, that the site looks a tat ridiculous and hypocritical: A site that is explicitly about erotica and sexual stuff is MORE sexually repressed and victorian than the BBC or ITV, two very very well respected media organisations that are NOT predominantly about sex stuff, like VEF is, with the policy "we don't show fully clothed pictures of actresses who are 17 years old, in PRIME TIME shows, which are SIT-COMS, And for no other reason than: "Ooooh we might get sued for ... " Take Christina Applegate. Since HER pics are ALL OVER the NET, it seems highly unlikely that VEF would get sued over this. Oh well. The rule should be: is she fully clothed or not, not is she 18 or not? Under present VEF rules, girls playing nuns would be removed, because they might be under 18 Oh well.

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Old 05-05-2013, 12:06 AM   #104
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According to the Gossip Rocks website, her birth was reported to the American authorities in 1959.
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That sounds more plausible, to me
Again, heaps of BS: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nastass...ki#cite_note-1 She's from 1961, notwithstanding your personal-cultural bias or what you think is likely. It's not like we've never had 12 year old or 13 year old nudes in mainstream movies.
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It should be noted that Ms. Shield's remarks regarding the 'body suit' were greeted with a bit of ridicule at the time that she made them. It was just a fairly immature attempt to cover something that she later regretted doing.
I don't know where you got that, but it's a whole lotta BS, she didn't regret it one bit: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1200124
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I was shocked by the reaction, Brooke told The News. I grew up in New York City. I knew what 42nd St. looked like. I knew what streetwalkers looked like. Louis Malle was dealing with the theme of innocence and experience. ... I never felt compromised. It never felt salacious. I was a little kid. I wasnt mature sexually at all. It was a more innocent time. It wasnt porn it was art.
You can always claim she's lying though.
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Katya Berger (12/13) in Piccole Labbra (aka, Little Lips).
Karin Trentephol (12) in L'Immoralita.
sadly, none of these have English subs, I looked everywhere nowhere on the net. Piccole Labbra can be found with dual language, english.

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Old 05-05-2013, 01:19 AM   #105
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Try to spot the 7 names not yet mentioned in the thread! As far I can see, the list so far:
I've listed them like this:
actress / age when filmed / name film.
This might seem bloated, but it does give clarity. Please feel free to add names!

 
European films:
Jlia Mr / 12-13 / Angyali dvzlet (1984) [plays Eve in the Garden of Eden, au naturel]
Akkemay / 15 / Schatjes! (1984)
Ariel Besse / 15 / Beau-Pre [1981] {nude in bed scene with older man}
Christine Boisson / 17 / Emmanuelle (1974) {imdb}
Line Arlien-Sborg / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr [1982] [world famous ... in Denmark]
Gitte-Iben Andersen / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr {shooting took 2 years} [1982]
Hanne Srensen / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr [1982]{shooting took 2 years}
Rita Kvist / 16 / Lime {no subs!}
Katja pulled a Traci Lords and didn't do nude when she was over 18 ....
Katja Bienert / 18 / Lilian (1984) (looks at least 25)
Katja Bienert / 17 / Diamonds of Kilimandjaro (1983)
Katja Bienert / 15 / Linda (1981)
Katja Bienert / 15 / Kenn' ich, wei ich, war ich schon! (1981)
Katja Bienert / 14 / Eugenie (1980){really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 14 / Schoolgirl Report 13 (1980){really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 14 / Fabian (1980) {really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 13 / Die Schulmdchen vom Treffpunkt Zoo (1979) (really looks 18 or 19 years old)
Katya Berger 13 in Piccole Labbra {no subs!}
Sandrine Bonnaire / 16 / nos amours (To Our Loves)
Sandrine Bonnaire / 17 / Tir vue
Lise Danvers / 17 / Contes immoraux
Abbey Hoes / 15 / Tirza (2010) [undertorso]
Adle Haenel / 13 Les diables (2002) wow
Eva Ionesco / 11 / Maladolescenza
Eva Ionesco / 11 / nude pictorial Italian Playboy (October 1976)
Virginie Ledoyen / 17 / L'eau froide
Virginie Ledoyen / 17 / La regle de l'homme
Virginie Ledoyen / 16 / Les marmottes {no subs!}
Virginie Ledoyen / 14 / Le voleur d'enfants {no subs!}
Judith Godreche / 17 / La Fille de 15 ans
Judith Godreche / 17 / Un t d'orages {no subs!}
Julie Engelbrecht / 12 / Adieu, mon ami
Jonna Liljendahl Du r inte klok, Madicken (1979)
Nastassja Kinski / 15 / To The Devil A Daughter (1976)
Nastassja Kinski / 14 / Falsche Bewegung (1975)
Desiree Nosbusch / 17 / Der Fan (1982)
Desiree Nosbusch / 16 / Nach Mitternacht (1981)
Hilde Nyeggen-Martinsen / 13 / Is-slottet
Line Storesund / 13 / Is-slottet
Jaroslava Schallerov 14 Valerie a tden divu/Valerie and Her Week of Wonders
Vanessa Paradis / 17 / Noce Blanche
Livia Russo / 14 / Emanuelle's Daughter
Isidora Simijonovic 15 Klip (2012) - it's like, HARDcore ...? FF BJ's
Louise Szpindel / 14 / Des paules solides / edonk + {no subs!}
Karin Trentephol / 12 / L'Immoralita {no subs!}
Natalie Uher / 15 / Escape to Paradise
Natalie Uher / 15 / German Playmate
Lara Wendel / 10 / Maladolescenza [really wow]
Agnieszka Włodarczyk / 17 / Sara (1997)
Delphine Zentout / 14 / 36 fillette (1988)
American films/Hollywood
Jenny Agutter / 16 / Walkabout (August 1969)
Drew Barrymore / 17 / Doppelganger
Thora Birch / 16 / American Beauty
Kiera Knightly (deleted)
Michelle Johnson's / 17 / Blame It On Rio
Phoebe Cates / 17 / Paradise (1982)
Dawn Dunlap / 16 / in Laura
Olivia Hussey / 16 / Romeo & Juliet
Melanie Griffith / 17 / Night Moves
Cristi Harris / 16 / Night of the Demons 2 (1994)
Linda Hayden / 15 / Baby Love (1968)
Christianne Hirt / 16 / Glitter Dome
Milla Jovovich / 15 / Chaplin (1992) she turned 16 during shoot.
Milla Jovovich / 15 / Return to the Blue Lagoon (1991)
Mia Kirshner / 17 / De l'amour et des restes humains (1993)
Shirley Mills / 12 / Child Bride (1938)
Tatum O'Neal / 17 / Circle of Two (1981)
Brooke Shields / 10 / The woman in the child (pictorial, Gary Gross)
Brooke Shields / 12 / Pretty Baby
Simonetta Stefanelli / 16 / The Godfather
On Kirshner: the film was shown at Cannes in April '93, she turned 18 in January, it's likely that shooting took place before her birthday

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Phoebe Cates was 18 when she did Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
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Try to spot the new names not yet mentioned in the thread! As far I can see, the list so far:
I've listed them like this:
actress / age when filmed / name film.
Please feel free to add names!

 
European films:
Jlia Mr / 12-13 / Angyali dvzlet (1984) [plays Eve in the Garden of Eden, au naturel]
Akkemay / 15 / Schatjes! (1984)
Ariel Besse / 15 / Beau-Pre [1981] {nude in bed scene with older man}
Christine Boisson / 17 / Emmanuelle (1974) {imdb}
Line Arlien-Sborg / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr [1982] [world famous ... in Denmark]
Gitte-Iben Andersen / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr {shooting took 2 years} [1982]
Hanne Srensen / 13-15 / Kundskabens tr [1982]{shooting took 2 years}
Rita Kvist / 16 / Lime {no subs!}
Katja pulled a Traci Lords and didn't do nude when she was over 18 ....
Katja Bienert / 18 / Lilian (1984) (looks at least 25)
Katja Bienert / 17 / Diamonds of Kilimandjaro (1983)
Katja Bienert / 15 / Linda (1981)
Katja Bienert / 15 / Kenn' ich, wei ich, war ich schon! (1981)
Katja Bienert / 14 / Eugenie (1980){really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 14 / Schoolgirl Report 13 (1980){really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 14 / Fabian (1980) {really looks 19 years old}
Katja Bienert / 13 / Die Schulmdchen vom Treffpunkt Zoo (1979) (really looks 18 or 19 years old)
Katya Berger 13 in Piccole Labbra {no subs!}
Sandrine Bonnaire / 16 / nos amours (To Our Loves)
Sandrine Bonnaire / 17 / Tir vue
Lola Crton / 17 / Un amour de jeunesse
Lise Danvers / 17 / Contes immoraux
Isolda Dychauk / 18 / Borgia (not The Borgias)
Julie Engelbrecht / 12 / Adieu, mon ami
Helle Fagralid /15-16 / Det skaldede spgelse
Mille Lehfeldt /13 / Det skaldede spgelse
Judith Godreche / 17 / La Fille de 15 ans
Judith Godreche / 17 / Un t d'orages {no subs!}
Abbey Hoes / 15 / Tirza (2010) [undertorso!]
Adle Haenel / 13 Les diables (2002) wow
Eva Ionesco / 11 / Maladolescenza
Eva Ionesco / 11 / pictorial Italian Playboy (October 1976)
Virginie Ledoyen / 17 / L'eau froide
Virginie Ledoyen / 17 / La regle de l'homme
Virginie Ledoyen / 16 / Les marmottes {no subs!}
Virginie Ledoyen / 14 / Le voleur d'enfants {no subs!}
Melinda Kinneman / 13 / Mitt liv som hund (1985) aka (My life as a dog)
Jonna Liljendahl / 11 / Du r inte klok, Madicken (1979)
Nastassja Kinski / 15 / To The Devil A Daughter (1976)
Nastassja Kinski / 14 / Falsche Bewegung (1975)
Desiree Nosbusch / 17 / Der Fan (1982)
Desiree Nosbusch / 16 / Nach Mitternacht (1981)
Hilde Nyeggen-Martinsen / 13 / Is-slottet
Line Storesund / 13 / Is-slottet
Jaroslava Schallerov 14 Valerie a tden divu/Valerie and Her Week of Wonders
Vanessa Paradis / 17 / Noce Blanche
Livia Russo / 14 / Emanuelle's Daughter
Isidora Simijonovic 15 Klip (2012) - it's like, HARDcore ...? FF BJ's
Louise Szpindel / 14 / Des paules solides / edonk + {no subs!}
Karin Trentephol / 12 / L'Immoralita {no subs!}
Natalie Uher / 15 / Escape to Paradise
Natalie Uher / 15 / German Playmate
Lara Wendel / 11 / Maladolescenza [really wow]
Agnieszka Włodarczyk / 17 / Sara (1997)
Delphine Zentout / 14 / 36 fillette (1988)
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American films/Hollywood
Jenny Agutter / 16 / Walkabout (August 1969)
Drew Barrymore / 17 / Doppelganger
Thora Birch / 16 / American Beauty
Michelle Johnson's / 17 / Blame It On Rio
Phoebe Cates / 17 / Paradise (1982)
Olivia d'Abo / 14 / Bolero (14yrs,3 mnth) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086987/business
Dawn Dunlap / 16 / Laura (1979)
Olivia Hussey / 16 / Romeo & Juliet
Melanie Griffith / 17 / Night Moves
Cristi Harris / 16 / Night of the Demons 2 (1994)
Linda Hayden / 15 / Baby Love (1968)
Christianne Hirt / 16 / Glitter Dome
Milla Jovovich / 15 / Chaplin (1992) she turned 16 during shoot.
Milla Jovovich / 15 / Return to the Blue Lagoon (1991)
Mia Kirshner* / 17 / De l'amour et des restes humains (1993)
Kiera Knightly (deleted, under review)
Shirley Mills / 12 / Child Bride (1938)
Tatum O'Neal / 17 / Circle of Two (1981)
Brooke Shields / 10 / The woman in the child (pictorial, Gary Gross)
Brooke Shields / 12 / Pretty Baby
Simonetta Stefanelli / 16 / The Godfather
* On Kirshner: the film premiered at Cannes in April '93, she turned 18 in January, it's likely that shooting took place before her birthday.

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Katja Bienert, no way is she 13 there.
If you are talking about Die Schulmdchen vom Treffpunkt Zoo, she was 11 when she made that. She says so in this interview

http://www.searchmytrash.com/cgi-bin...ert%2811-08%29

She was born in Sept 1966 and the film was shot in August 1978


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Try to spot the new names not yet mentioned in the thread! As far I can see, the list so far:
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Jennifer Connelly was 15 in Once Upon a Time in America

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Jennifer Connelly was 15 in Once Upon a Time in America
But her 'nude scene' is really a body double.
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But her 'nude scene' is really a body double.
Really amazing that some people still think it was Connelly herself. I think it even says so on the credits that a body double was used. She compensated, however, with some really good scenes when she's was a little older. Seven nude pics and the first one was a hot lesbian one.

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