Things Noticeable this week - Page 1062

**blueballsdc** · 05-10-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenman

I can't think that this Octomum woman is really going to help her kids-surely after lowering herself to the almost the lowest common denominator by doing porn, her kids will feel the stigma for years, especially from their school chums. When I first heard about this I thought actually the woman had been cruelly born with eight arms-well you don't you but then of course I followed that up by checking the story and found it was having 8 children. I was racking my brains to remember something similar that happened here some years ago but I can't remember the woman's name. She had sextuplets and then appeared in papers etc getting some nice cheques for the story she sold to the tabloids and then I think she stripped off(definitely didn't do porn) but her reputation didn't lift much after that. Debbie someone? Anyway, I just think there are better ways to provide for your kids without stooping that low-and what does her husband think of all this?

Nadya Suleman, the "Octomom", is not married although she was married in the past. Her mariage did not produce any children. The babies were all through IVF (in vitro fertilization). She also has 6 kids from a previous run through with IVF producing children from several pregnancies. She was living with her parents and receiving "public assistance". She has also stated that she would like more children.

Now this is just my armchair psychoanalysis, but I would think that she has some mental issues.

**palo5** · 05-10-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scoundrel

This I doubt. If the mere unpopularity of the incumbent were sufficient...

You're right, even unpopular, incompetent incumbents will win if people think the opposition are worse

It's like meeting a hungry tiger in the forest. You don't have to be the fastest human to survive - you just need to be faster than the slowest

**Wendigo** · 05-10-2012, 05:49 PM

Civil Servants out on strike again, hmmmm where I work most workers turned up there's just a hardcore who feel hard done to with pension reforms and pay.
Hard to sympathise on pensions as I'm on a reasonable wage under £15,000 and pay over £700 per year pension whilst others on half as much again as my wage pay far less for their pension. Their gripe is they are now having to pay what other workers in the private sector have to, sorry but that's just life.
With regards to pay there are always some individuals who may have just cause to complain but they have been hijacked by militants aiming to cause disruption.
I worked most of my life in the private sector but am now working in the public sector.
I know many benefits that long serving public sector workers have are solely due to a lack of joined up thinking by past Governments.
Some of the issues I deal with daily just beggar belief but people are only abusing lame brained legislation and they see if one person gets A why can't they. Considering how many lawyers are in Government it is amazing how so much legislation manages to be so piss-poor.
Anyway back to my movie

**Greenman** · 05-10-2012, 06:18 PM

I've noticed a lot of political chat on here over the months-would it not be better to create a Political Thread where people could have their say and not argue on here about it? Just a thought, but it seems to me a lot of you know more about the political aspects of ours or your own country than most here and surely it makes more sense to argue more on a dedicated thread? Don't shoot me, it's just an idea

Have you noticed there is a considerable interest being shown in Shakespeare again, thanks in part to the BBC and the fact it is his birthday year-I can remember doing Twelfth Night at school(as Malvolio) and Sir John Falstaff as well but we never got to tackle Hamlet or King Lear. Shakespeare is seen by some as dull, but he did actually produce many fine plays, tragedies and comedies and is renowned the world over. I am not sure about rapping but I suppose had it been around in his time he might have embraced that too.

**palo5** · 05-10-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenman

...Shakespeare is seen by some as dull...

Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art

**rotobott** · 05-10-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art

Done to death by slanderous tongue, I'll wager thou art a foreigner, not knowing of our English ways

**palo5** · 05-10-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rotobott

Done to death by slanderous tongue, I'll wager thou art a foreigner, not knowing of our English ways

Well... "All things that are, are with more spirit chased than enjoyed"

I only taught my my children that, after they had children themselves. Still wasn't exactly modern wisdom

**dbailey** · 05-10-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art

Most of his sentences are hard to understand by us northerners.

Never have understood the charm, I think it is just sheer snobbery, give me Dylan Thomas or JB Priestly or John Betjeman anyday. at least what they paint an image of has some echo of meaning for a chap like me.

Shakespear...no thanks

Now Terry Pratchett...

**Greenman** · 05-10-2012, 08:53 PM

Forsooth, and fifthsooth even it seems that even on here Shakespeare is popular but I can see how tha' northern folk might see it as bit hard to understand, no one said it was easy and a lot of his stuff is difficult for even us Southerners to get-he is often misquoted for example "All that glitters is not gold" should actually be "All that glisters is not gold" but who the heck uses glisters these days

Hamlet: "To be, or not to be, that is the question, whether tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing them end them..." etc. Whichever way you look at it, he was one of the greatest writers and a real tourist attraction for this country. Exeunt, persued by a bear!

**squigg58** · 05-10-2012, 09:06 PM

I must admit that I hated doing Shakespeare at school. It was Henry the something-th part something if I remember correctly. Not a lot happened in it. Someone might have died at some point, and there were probably a few "exeunts"!

However, all Shakespeare plays are much more fun if you imagine them being read in a Brummie accent!!

05-10-2012, 06:18 PM	#10614
Greenman Former Mod/80's Page 3 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: An attic in England Posts: 12,754 Thanks: 21,035 Thanked 182,605 Times in 14,479 Posts	I've noticed a lot of political chat on here over the months-would it not be better to create a Political Thread where people could have their say and not argue on here about it? Just a thought, but it seems to me a lot of you know more about the political aspects of ours or your own country than most here and surely it makes more sense to argue more on a dedicated thread? Don't shoot me, it's just an idea Have you noticed there is a considerable interest being shown in Shakespeare again, thanks in part to the BBC and the fact it is his birthday year-I can remember doing Twelfth Night at school(as Malvolio) and Sir John Falstaff as well but we never got to tackle Hamlet or King Lear. Shakespeare is seen by some as dull, but he did actually produce many fine plays, tragedies and comedies and is renowned the world over. I am not sure about rapping but I suppose had it been around in his time he might have embraced that too. __________________ There is only ONE Greenman, accept no substitutes! "If I should die, think only this of me...I'll be back to get ya!" Blackadder Goes Forth

05-10-2012, 08:53 PM	#10619
Greenman Former Mod/80's Page 3 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: An attic in England Posts: 12,754 Thanks: 21,035 Thanked 182,605 Times in 14,479 Posts	Forsooth, and fifthsooth even it seems that even on here Shakespeare is popular but I can see how tha' northern folk might see it as bit hard to understand, no one said it was easy and a lot of his stuff is difficult for even us Southerners to get-he is often misquoted for example "All that glitters is not gold" should actually be "All that glisters is not gold" but who the heck uses glisters these days Hamlet: "To be, or not to be, that is the question, whether tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing them end them..." etc. Whichever way you look at it, he was one of the greatest writers and a real tourist attraction for this country. Exeunt, persued by a bear! __________________ There is only ONE Greenman, accept no substitutes! "If I should die, think only this of me...I'll be back to get ya!" Blackadder Goes Forth

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05-10-2012, 05:49 PM	#10613
Wendigo Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blighty Posts: 10,302 Thanks: 31,290 Thanked 115,964 Times in 10,525 Posts	Civil Servants out on strike again, hmmmm where I work most workers turned up there's just a hardcore who feel hard done to with pension reforms and pay. Hard to sympathise on pensions as I'm on a reasonable wage under £15,000 and pay over £700 per year pension whilst others on half as much again as my wage pay far less for their pension. Their gripe is they are now having to pay what other workers in the private sector have to, sorry but that's just life. With regards to pay there are always some individuals who may have just cause to complain but they have been hijacked by militants aiming to cause disruption. I worked most of my life in the private sector but am now working in the public sector. I know many benefits that long serving public sector workers have are solely due to a lack of joined up thinking by past Governments. Some of the issues I deal with daily just beggar belief but people are only abusing lame brained legislation and they see if one person gets A why can't they. Considering how many lawyers are in Government it is amazing how so much legislation manages to be so piss-poor. Anyway back to my movie

05-10-2012, 09:06 PM	#10620
squigg58 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own little world Posts: 2,306 Thanks: 14,353 Thanked 19,643 Times in 2,510 Posts	I must admit that I hated doing Shakespeare at school. It was Henry the something-th part something if I remember correctly. Not a lot happened in it. Someone might have died at some point, and there were probably a few "exeunts"! However, all Shakespeare plays are much more fun if you imagine them being read in a Brummie accent!!