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Old 05-11-2012, 07:34 AM   #10601
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I should add that much of those works form the glue that held together the British over several centuries and most certainly since the Education acts of the 1880's.

George Orwell in one of his essays points out the importance of the language and how the British culture is one of the written word rather than art or music.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:35 AM   #10602
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200 years ago today a bankrupt madman shot and killed the British Prime Minister Mr Spencer Perceval.
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George Orwell in one of his essays points out the importance of the language and how the British culture is one of the written word rather than art or music.
Well, he would, wouldn't he! If he'd been an artist or a composer, I guess he might have seen things in a slightly different light!
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...George Orwell in one of his essays points out the importance of the language and how the British culture is one of the written word rather than art or music.
Britain does have art and some music, it just isn't so well known. The art is much better than the music, imho
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Perhaps we need a "language" thread!

Have "standards" fallen?
What's the relevance of (eg) Shakespearean language in today's society?
What defines "good" or "bad" in terms of the written or spoken word?
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Britain does have art and some music, it just isn't so well known. The art is much better than the music, imho
British music is known all over the world.
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Having left (Secondary school) with..nothing, I have to admit that as a youth Shakespeare had absolutely no appeal for me at all. The only books I remember reading at that time was, Chopper, Hells angels and Skinhead.
It wasn't until I started working at the Theatre Royal in York that I basically became aware of his existence! I found out that I was entitled to free tickets for the performances (If they weren't fully booked) and by this time I realised that I had better educate myself..for free.
I ended up watching quite a few Shakespeare plays on my own and really getting into them. to be sure, you have to listen and decipher the language and it makes one's brain hurt a lot, but I really started to dig that crazy sh*t, man.

My personal favourite is Richard the III. I just love the treachery, the deceit, lying, monstrous murderous ambition of Dick the sh*t even though he was from around these parts. (Lived in Sheriff Hutton in a big f**k off castle)
Shakespeare did a hatchet job on Richard because old Will was writing for the Tudors and Richard was a Plantagenet. He lived in very dangerous times.
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British music is known all over the world.
You could say the same of American music, but I didn't mean teenager pop/rock/rap/trash

On the other hand, some Irish music is good
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You could say the same of American music, but I didn't mean teenager pop/rock/rap/trash

On the other hand, some Irish music is good
Oh do come on...

Morris dancing music

Bagpipes

Redundant Yorkshire mining town Brass Bands

Folk music

............oh I see what you mean ....I'll get me coat

Look here... I think they are pushing the envelope a bit with Holst though

http://classicalmusic.about.com/od/c...-Composers.htm
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Of course Holst was a Southerner..
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