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Old 05-10-2012, 06:18 PM   #10591
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I've noticed a lot of political chat on here over the months-would it not be better to create a Political Thread where people could have their say and not argue on here about it? Just a thought, but it seems to me a lot of you know more about the political aspects of ours or your own country than most here and surely it makes more sense to argue more on a dedicated thread? Don't shoot me, it's just an idea

Have you noticed there is a considerable interest being shown in Shakespeare again, thanks in part to the BBC and the fact it is his birthday year-I can remember doing Twelfth Night at school(as Malvolio) and Sir John Falstaff as well but we never got to tackle Hamlet or King Lear. Shakespeare is seen by some as dull, but he did actually produce many fine plays, tragedies and comedies and is renowned the world over. I am not sure about rapping but I suppose had it been around in his time he might have embraced that too.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:59 PM   #10592
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...Shakespeare is seen by some as dull...
Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art
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Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art
Done to death by slanderous tongue, I'll wager thou art a foreigner, not knowing of our English ways
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:44 PM   #10594
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Done to death by slanderous tongue, I'll wager thou art a foreigner, not knowing of our English ways
Well... "All things that are, are with more spirit chased than enjoyed"

I only taught my my children that, after they had children themselves. Still wasn't exactly modern wisdom
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:02 PM   #10595
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Shakespeare is not 'dull'. But his works had no original plot, no English-speaker ever spoke like he wrote, and his works are 500 years old and hard to understand, especially for foreigners

But some of his sentences are works of art
Most of his sentences are hard to understand by us northerners.

Never have understood the charm, I think it is just sheer snobbery, give me Dylan Thomas or JB Priestly or John Betjeman anyday. at least what they paint an image of has some echo of meaning for a chap like me.

Shakespear...no thanks

Now Terry Pratchett...
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Forsooth, and fifthsooth even it seems that even on here Shakespeare is popular but I can see how tha' northern folk might see it as bit hard to understand, no one said it was easy and a lot of his stuff is difficult for even us Southerners to get-he is often misquoted for example "All that glitters is not gold" should actually be "All that glisters is not gold" but who the heck uses glisters these days
Hamlet: "To be, or not to be, that is the question, whether tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing them end them..." etc. Whichever way you look at it, he was one of the greatest writers and a real tourist attraction for this country. Exeunt, persued by a bear!
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I must admit that I hated doing Shakespeare at school. It was Henry the something-th part something if I remember correctly. Not a lot happened in it. Someone might have died at some point, and there were probably a few "exeunts"!

However, all Shakespeare plays are much more fun if you imagine them being read in a Brummie accent!!
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At least the members from the British Isles have a cultural background for learning Shakespeare. Some of the terminology and language may sound familiar although a bit dated. Try being a couple of generations removed and an ocean away like I was when they tried to get us to learn his works. Plus we were only 10-12 years old and this stuff was way over our heads. Which leads me to my point. Our literature class followed our religious studies and the language in the bible can be a bit archaic. So our teacher reads us a passage from one of the plays and asked us if we recognized the writer. The student sitting behind me raised his hand and, in all seriousness, asked "Did he write the Bible." The teacher cracked up laughing but more than a few students were nodding in agreement. And that's been my take on Shakespeare ever since, great writer just a little hard to understand.

No one asked but my favorite writer is Dan Simmons.
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Was watching a weird bodies type program on TV. First bit a bloke was producing milk from his moobs-oh dear. Next a man who became a woman. I had never seen the results of the surgery. Bloody hell! no wonder blokes get caught out. It looked like a real pussy to me. The face is not feminine enough, but beer googles change that
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Hah! Northerners can understand Will's work as well as anybody. Just need a proper education that's all.

Shakespeare and Tyndale (the man who oversaw the translation of the bible) were contemporaries and produced some of the most beautiful literature ever written.
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