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Lemo...I am impressed by your postings.
They had a lot of content. You mentioned your "Bad English", If English is a second language for you, it's impressive. I find myself intrigued buy Putin. I'm defiantly not in favor of his actions for expansion. I truly believe that this man needs to be watched. He has such a strong desire for expansion and power for Russia. I see Putin as a warrior of a past. Why did Putin take Crimea...Because he could. Clean and simple. Is he afraid of President Obama? Well , with Obama's recent workout video, I don't think he's worried about a guy scolding him while wearing "Mom Jeans". Not to bash Obama...But please...Do compare the two images they portray. But Lemo...I really have comment on your critic of the "press coverage" our American Presidents and policies. Bush had been totally slammed for getting us into two wars. He had been shunned by half the worlds stage. President Obama felt the need for an "apology tour". They far left paint Bush and Cheney as "War Mongers". I as well don't have the stats of civilian drone kills, but I have read some of the reports and I really don't think that they are that high. President Obama had been so heavily criticized over the issue. He stopped. The last strike I heard of was back in December. President Clinton had been impeached for lying about his office Blow Job. One of two in the history of the United States. Tony Blair is still demonized. Our leaders of the "Free World" are heavily criticized. Supplying arms to other nations has been common practice for decades. I don't know of Putin partaking in such other than this "Possible" connection with Malaysian Airliner being shot down. But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of Putin supplying arms to nations for political gain. Us here in the U.S. do not "Take Nations". We have nations of interest for democracy. Interests for strong allies and trading partners. We don't invade counties who have not committed crimes. When we do invade a country we do not take it. We try to build that nation into it's own. It takes a very long time for a country to find it's establishments. There is a huge vacuum to be filled. Shall we place someone in charge who could lose what has been established? That would be a waste of American lives. Look at what has happened with Iraq. After we elected a new administration they lost interest over there, viewed as "Bush's War". It fell apart mainly because we lost focus on who and how was leading over there. Obama really had no interest there other than pulling out the troops. I can understand why you would find Putin so appealing. He is an impressive leader. But I do not value him. I do not value any leader who "Takes" nations. World history has had enough of that. Last edited by BinLadenSucks; July 19th, 2014 at 04:47 AM.. Reason: grammar |
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Because the Russian Black Sea Fleet has been based in Crimea since the 18th century, operating in both the Black and Mediterranean Sea. Crimea wasn't part of the Ukraine until 1954. It was Khrushchev's gift to Ukraine and posed no loss to Russia as both Russia and the Ukraine were part of the Soviet Union. Nothing changed after the break-up of the USSR.
What country would be willing to give up a naval base of this strategic importance and watch idly as it's been surrounded? Putin is not a good guy and he's honest about it. But he's acting in his own backyard and not thousands of miles away. |
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Putin is responsible for all the bloodshed in south-east Ukraine. Yes, he is new Stalin, he is a criminal and as a criminal mr Putin should be judged in Hague then executed by hanging.
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July 19th, 2014, 07:27 AM | #15 |
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If Putin believes Pro-Russians weren't responsible for the murder of those on MH17 why doesn't he condemn it like every other leader in the world and ask for the perpetrators to be brought to justice?
As I previously stated in another thread of the UN'S 193-member body only 11 voted against the resolution declaring Crimea's breakaway referendum illegitimate those being Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, North Korea, Russia, Nicaragua, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela and Zimbabwe. Is this Putins new rival trading block he's planning? You have to wonder what exactly they are going to be trading. I have read the Pro-Putin views on the Ukraine crisis but I say to Russians if you want to ignore 95% of the rest of the world and go along with him then you are the ones who will suffer as Russia moves towards becoming an international Pariah state akin to North Korea or Moaist China. Last edited by vinceprince; July 19th, 2014 at 07:51 AM.. |
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Hello Cold War II.
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And by the way... There was some reasoning on amount of victims during Maidan compare to "peaceful" annexation of Crimea. I claim it is pure demagogy. Because war in Donbass is fomented by Russia and it is obviously. Now pathological liar and hypocrite Lavrov demands Ukranian army to stop bloodshed, calls them "fascists" (what a lying crud!) while he should demand this from his master, ruthless and brainless murderer Putin. Do not believe Russian propaganda, week ago one of the most popular russian TV channels "First Channel" showed a delirious news story where they asserted that Ukranian army soldiers have crucified a three-years-old child. And there was no evidences! They just have excogitate this senseless bullshit. So never belive Russia it is a really sick country and it should be healed. Healed by NATO.
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For a person who is trying to take a country by stealth this is completely the wrong move for Putin, to do something as silly as this. Basically because of what's happening in the Middle East the most of the worlds attention has turned away from Ukraine. Perfect time to steal more territory quietly. Unless that is Putin has total control of his armies like Hitler had in the second world war. Not listening to your generals and believing in yourself without question can lead you down a very dangerous path. My thinking is he could of ordered a civilian plane shot down and try to lay the blame squarely on Ukrainian's army. This is what you would call a false flag attack. Blaming an incident on another country giving you the right to launch an invasion. It has been done before the U.S. entering the Vietnam war was a false flag attack. It is known as The Gulf of Tonkin Incident. The U.S. fired first but later blamed the Vietnamese. So either this was a complete stuff up or Putin is so arrogant he thinks he can out smart the world. As a intelligence expert was saying on ABC news (Australia) this morning only well trained personnel can operate this rocketry system not these poorly trained separatist fighters. It's also convenient for Putin that some of the worlds top Aids researchers were on board and we know what Putin thinks of the gay community. You could say he got 2 birds with the one stone..
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I suppose we have an excellent example of the same tactics used by USSR back in 1939 (and it is more in the context). Before Soviet had attacked Finland they shelled their own border with their own artillery blamed it on Finland. Then it was invasion of Soviet barbarians on Finnish territory, this conflict known as Winter War.
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