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Old 04-12-2012, 10:05 PM   #41
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My wife's got a cousin - clever guy , Cambridge graduate, nice person [but an utter wanker] - he went on holiday to the Scilly Isles and [ he told me this himself] had a "revelation" . First thing he did when he got back was he converted his fiancee, they both became Baptists and to this day they bother God something terrible - both his daughters [ attractive big tarts both of them] are as holy as he is.

So what is it about the Scilly Isles??
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My wife's got a cousin - clever guy , Cambridge graduate, nice person [but an utter wanker] - he went on holiday to the Scilly Isles and [ he told me this himself] had a "revelation" . First thing he did when he got back was he converted his fiancee, they both became Baptists and to this day they bother God something terrible - both his daughters [ attractive big tarts both of them] are as holy as he is.

So what is it about the Scilly Isles??

They clearly turn you silly!
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I don't care if anyone believes in something you cannot prove as long as it does not negatively impact me.
You can't prove God exists.
You also can't prove he doesn't.

When I hear about people getting their knickers in a twist because someone wants to pray in a government building or because the word god is on the currency, I just want to follow them around saying "God!" over and over, and...
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:42 AM   #44
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I don't know about Nobody1 but I would answer a great big yes to that one. Anyone who claims to know that there is no other plane of existence except this one, no God, no further reality after death or outside this life, is claiming to know something which can neither be proven nor disproven. As for health, as soom as we are born our only certainties are that we will eventually die and that in between we will pay taxes. It is also highly probable, but not absolutely certain, that we will have to shop at least once at IKEA.
Atheists do not claim to know if there is a life after death. They reject religion.

Health has a lot to do with environment. Where you grow up, what school you attend.
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Atheists do not claim to know if there is a life after death. They reject religion.
But that's the same thing, isn't it? If you reject organised religion but still believe in a life after death, you may be heretical but you still have a faith. Likewise, if you do positively believe that there is no life after death, that's also a faith, because you believe something which is not scientifically knowable. If you merely state that you don't know the answer, then that's an agnostic rather than an atheist position.

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Health has a lot to do with environment. Where you grow up, what school you attend.
True, but regardless of how healthy our lifestyles are or aren't, we all end up dead, eventually.
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But that's the same thing, isn't it? If you reject organised religion but still believe in a life after death, you may be heretical but you still have a faith. Likewise, if you do positively believe that there is no life after death, that's also a faith, because you believe something which is not scientifically knowable. If you merely state that you don't know the answer, then that's an agnostic rather than an atheist position.

True, but regardless of how healthy our lifestyles are or aren't, we all end up dead, eventually.
I do not believe in a "life" after death. I believe we are energy. When our bodies die that energy lasts forever in the ether.

The body dies, quite often due to circumstances beyond our control. Like poverty.
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One difference about atheists is they don't worship any deity. And they keep an open mind.
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By the age of 8 I was asking Mum about the double standards around xstianity

By 10 I stopped bowing my head during prayers at our compulsory religious assemblies ( City suberbs state junior school)

By 11 I had rejected christian doctrine

My Mum is Agnostic now and I guess that I have had no faith in a creator god for over 40 years.

I am not sure what this term 'Atheist' is or why it is percieved as being so bad in the USA.

I have no faiths at all, have no faith in any creator deity, I record my religion as 'none' on official forms and try and live my life as a secular humanitarian.

I was a trained scientist and I accept nothing that can't be tested or reproduced under test conditions.

My religion is not better than yours becuase I dont have one and probably never will.

And as of Heaven, Hell, Devils?, nope, no belief here either.

Edited to add that in the past I have been a membe of both UK-Skeptics and the JREF, James Randi Educational Forum and that I seek out the science behind myths. I am a proponent of Occams Razor and I do think that we should all be able to critically review any garbage which is presssed on to us as 'truth' whester it by from politicians or religious leaders. In order for society to perform we do need sets of rules and morals, evolution has favoured co-operative genetic modelling of cooperative behaviours. We are here becuae our genes cooperated with enough other genes to ensure continuation. I dont need a religion to show me how to behave and yet I respect those that do have faiths, asl long as they realise that this is their choice and not determnied by a deity.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #49
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I'm also an atheist. Always been.

At age 6 (when in school everyone had to choose whether they will follow religion class or ethics class) my parents asked me if i think there is a god or no. I thought about it and said "no", so i went to the "moral" class (we were with 7 in this class while catholic class had about 20 kids)

But, most kids chose the catholic class because they knew they'd get presents for their communion. I was surprised at the hypocricy of that.
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I`m a self agnostic.
I`d like to believe in my own existence.
Just need more proof
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