2 subcategories of classic models?

frvomac · 02-22-2012, 10:58 AM

I would like to know your (both moderators and forum members) opinion regarding subcategories of Classic models - there are only Classic pornstars and Softcore models. However, sorting out the models into these 2 categories is a bit chaotic here. I mean, we can see models/actresses who did porn only once time in Classic Pornstars (as Kristine deBell or Michelle Bauer) and we can find some models featuring in a few porn movies or shooting sets with some porn pics in Softcore models - for example Dita Von Teese (of course I think we can find better examples on both sides, even "pornstars" showing less than "softcore models"). I think this is not problem only of this section - for example pornstar Lina Romay is appearing in Classic celebrities under Classic Celebs, Beauty & Elegance

But back to the Classic Model - in first case we have some softcore ceebrities labeled as "pornstars" here and on the other side we can see porn pics and movies in Softcore models section where one would expect softcore pics

My opinion is that we should have some strict rules or new category for softcore models featuring in some porn sets/movies (and keep Softcore models strictly for 100% softcore models).
I am sorry if this was already discussed here.

rickp · 02-23-2012, 09:55 PM

I'm sure the mimimum requirement for a classic pornstar is that the said model/actress has to have been vaginally penetrated by a male penis. Hence Dita Von Tease has only used sex toys, so she's not included in the pornstar section.

frvomac · 02-24-2012, 12:29 AM

I am really not sure - some model can do absolutely everything except penetration in hundreds of b/g sets/videos + g/g or solo and this is not pornstar? I know that this is more typical for modern models, but...
And for example Carole Laure is pornstar according to your definition though she has done it only once and in art movie

Inglorious · 02-24-2012, 12:33 AM

Once a Model has done penetration work she is classed as a Pornstar, simulated stuff does not count.

This keeps it nice and simple to define between Softcore and Hardcore Models.

frvomac · 02-24-2012, 12:52 AM

Ok, I can see that you have different point of view.

As for the mine, model acting in hundreds of porn movies is pornstar even if she is doing only blowjobs or lesbo movies.
And Carole Laure is surely NOT pornstar for me.

But I understand that it's easy to apply this simple definition here.
However then you have a lot of models in wrong section according this (for example e.g.Michelle Bauer in Pornstars).

Inglorious · 02-24-2012, 01:02 AM

When the Forum was first set up, any Model who had done B/G work was automatically placed in CP, we have gradually moved them back to Softcore but obviously missed some.

If you see any that need moving, then just report it.

Also, if a model has done 1 or 100 hardcore movie/pics that still makes her a Non Softcore Model.

Inglorious · 02-24-2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frvomac

And Carole Laure is surely NOT pornstar for me.
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Which is why she is in Classic Celebrities

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...t=carole+laure

frvomac · 02-24-2012, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inglorious

When the Forum was first set up, any Model who had done B/G work was automatically placed in CP, we have gradually moved them back to Softcore but obviously missed some.

If you see any that need moving, then just report it.

Also, if a model has done 1 or 100 hardcore movie/pics that still makes her a Non Softcore Model.

Blowjob or masturbating with toy is not softcore for sure as well

Hardcore is including oral sex, other kinds of penetration etc.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_pornography
While your definition is reduced to penetration by male penis (so lesbian showing everything from her real sexual life can never become pornstar here while celebrit with stolen home porn video can

).
I was just surprised that I can find a lot of porn photos in Softcore models so the subcategories are losing a lot of sense for me. But it seems I am alone with this point of view.
P.S.: Luckily some actresses including Carole Laure falling in "pornstars" categories are in Celebrities sections

Inglorious · 02-24-2012, 01:29 AM

Well............... the system seems to work, very few complain about it.

**RjG57** · 02-24-2012, 01:59 AM

Not trying to add to the confusion any chance of changing 'Softcore models' to Classic softcore models. This would clarify and emphasize the thread, you have in the modern section.

I presume at some time in the future all those in the modern section will be re-classed and drift into the 'classic' section.
Then how do we compare the likes of Dita Von Teese, a softcore classic, almost glamour model with a total slut like Tanya Danielle as she, I believe, does only lesbian. Tanya can't be classed as a pornstar as she does not do vaginal pen.. under current rules.

02-22-2012, 10:58 AM	#1
frvomac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 56 Thanked 102 Times in 19 Posts	2 subcategories of classic models? I would like to know your (both moderators and forum members) opinion regarding subcategories of Classic models - there are only Classic pornstars and Softcore models. However, sorting out the models into these 2 categories is a bit chaotic here. I mean, we can see models/actresses who did porn only once time in Classic Pornstars (as Kristine deBell or Michelle Bauer) and we can find some models featuring in a few porn movies or shooting sets with some porn pics in Softcore models - for example Dita Von Teese (of course I think we can find better examples on both sides, even "pornstars" showing less than "softcore models"). I think this is not problem only of this section - for example pornstar Lina Romay is appearing in Classic celebrities under Classic Celebs, Beauty & Elegance But back to the Classic Model - in first case we have some softcore ceebrities labeled as "pornstars" here and on the other side we can see porn pics and movies in Softcore models section where one would expect softcore pics My opinion is that we should have some strict rules or new category for softcore models featuring in some porn sets/movies (and keep Softcore models strictly for 100% softcore models). I am sorry if this was already discussed here.

02-24-2012, 01:59 AM	#10
RjG57 Qualified Breast & Nipple Inspector Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: under down under Posts: 895 Thanks: 6,456 Thanked 31,231 Times in 1,236 Posts	Not trying to add to the confusion any chance of changing 'Softcore models' to Classic softcore models. This would clarify and emphasize the thread, you have in the modern section. I presume at some time in the future all those in the modern section will be re-classed and drift into the 'classic' section. Then how do we compare the likes of Dita Von Teese, a softcore classic, almost glamour model with a total slut like Tanya Danielle as she, I believe, does only lesbian. Tanya can't be classed as a pornstar as she does not do vaginal pen.. under current rules. __________________ ************************************ I'll be back *****************************

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02-23-2012, 09:55 PM	#2
rickp Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 61 Thanks: 1,513 Thanked 254 Times in 66 Posts	I'm sure the mimimum requirement for a classic pornstar is that the said model/actress has to have been vaginally penetrated by a male penis. Hence Dita Von Tease has only used sex toys, so she's not included in the pornstar section.

02-24-2012, 12:29 AM	#3
frvomac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 56 Thanked 102 Times in 19 Posts	I am really not sure - some model can do absolutely everything except penetration in hundreds of b/g sets/videos + g/g or solo and this is not pornstar? I know that this is more typical for modern models, but... And for example Carole Laure is pornstar according to your definition though she has done it only once and in art movie

02-24-2012, 12:33 AM	#4
Inglorious Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,979 Thanks: 24,962 Thanked 183,189 Times in 11,036 Posts	Once a Model has done penetration work she is classed as a Pornstar, simulated stuff does not count. This keeps it nice and simple to define between Softcore and Hardcore Models.

02-24-2012, 12:52 AM	#5
frvomac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 56 Thanked 102 Times in 19 Posts	Ok, I can see that you have different point of view. As for the mine, model acting in hundreds of porn movies is pornstar even if she is doing only blowjobs or lesbo movies. And Carole Laure is surely NOT pornstar for me. But I understand that it's easy to apply this simple definition here. However then you have a lot of models in wrong section according this (for example e.g.Michelle Bauer in Pornstars).

02-24-2012, 01:02 AM	#6
Inglorious Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,979 Thanks: 24,962 Thanked 183,189 Times in 11,036 Posts	When the Forum was first set up, any Model who had done B/G work was automatically placed in CP, we have gradually moved them back to Softcore but obviously missed some. If you see any that need moving, then just report it. Also, if a model has done 1 or 100 hardcore movie/pics that still makes her a Non Softcore Model.

02-24-2012, 01:29 AM	#9
Inglorious Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,979 Thanks: 24,962 Thanked 183,189 Times in 11,036 Posts	Well............... the system seems to work, very few complain about it.