Trump: The end of Democracy and the start of fascism

**aegean** · January 16th, 2024, 10:27 AM

HOW

Quite simply how?

The left press such as Joy Reid rant on about this but not how it could even happen?

Could it happen?

I don't see how, could someone please explain how it could conceivably happen?

Thank you

**LadyLuck** · January 16th, 2024, 01:28 PM

Trump prevented that from happening (for now) in November 2016. I realize that fascism is often identified as a far-right movement but I see a rise in fascism in the US (if at all) coming from the left, not from the right. The left are the ones who want to disarm the public. Ring any bells?

**Rogerbh** · January 16th, 2024, 08:56 PM

Trump shows many signs of wanting to be a dictator. I do think he will be assassinated within two years if he is re-elected.

I do long for the return of a moderate leader in the US.

Fuck the extremists on both ends of the party spectrums.

Furry Triangle · January 17th, 2024, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyLuck

Trump prevented that from happening (for now) in November 2016. I realize that fascism is often identified as a far-right movement but I see a rise in fascism in the US (if at all) coming from the left, not from the right. The left are the ones who want to disarm the public. Ring any bells?

I need you to submit evidence "The Left" wants to disarm the public. Cuz all I've seen is movements to add things more thorough background checks and such.

**Priapus** · January 17th, 2024, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Furry Triangle

I need you to submit evidence "The Left" wants to disarm the public. Cuz all I've seen is movements to add things more thorough background checks and such.

Of course they don't come right out and say it, except when they do.
Now, can we talk about more thorough background checks on voters, please?

**ellpieski** · January 17th, 2024, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

Trump shows many signs of wanting to be a dictator. I do think he will be assassinated within two years if he is re-elected.

This is solely the narrative of the left, parroted by Reid and Maddow ad infinitum, without a shred of evidence.

They were also the two that claimed the Steele Dossier was real.

They also claimed Hunters laptop was a russian plant.

They also claim that masks were 100% effective at stopping covid.

When the sources are corrupted and lack integrity, they are disregarded by intelligent people.

Im still waiting for actual evidence that Trump has said he plans to be a dictator.

Havent seen it and I dont expect to see it, as it does not exist.

It does however, like the Steele Dossier and russian collusion, give the leftie morons another new false rallying cry because the old false ones have worn out.

**ellpieski** · January 17th, 2024, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Furry Triangle

I need you to submit evidence "The Left" wants to disarm the public. Cuz all I've seen is movements to add things more thorough background checks and such.

Factcheckers have looked at this and called it "PARTLY FALSE".

You know the left has decided to come for all the guns long ago, but you do not wish to publicly acknowlwdge that, as it weakens the political stance of the left when the truth is revealed. Rather than admit the inconvenient political truth, you hope to defend that untenable position by adopting the troll tactic to call out for citations and articles in the hope it will reveal and oh so moderate tiny incremental chipping away of gun rights.

But it doesnt reveal anything reasonable or moderate. Democrats have let slip many times "they are coming for your guns." In fact, at the ground level, local democrat politicians in cities have passed laws to disarm the public, ensuring that only criminals will have easy access to firearms.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/12/76038...it-on-buybacks

https://apnews.com/article/07f65423a...79afd0fba0a50c

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...idUSKBN20S2ST/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NOWTTYG/com...for_your_guns/

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ake-them-away/

**ellpieski** · January 17th, 2024, 06:15 PM

As for the rise of Fascism in America, it now takes the form of liberalism and the Democrat Party.

March in lockstep, no dissenting opinion is tolerated, just like the Nazis.

If it walks like a nazi, talks like a nazi, sounds lika a nazi, then its a democrat.

**LadyLuck** · January 17th, 2024, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Furry Triangle

I need you to submit evidence "The Left" wants to disarm the public. Cuz all I've seen is movements to add things more thorough background checks and such.

There is already an excellent thread here on VEF dedicated to Weaponry. Links and articles about how our leftist government is trying to disarm the public at the state level (since it is more difficult to do it at the national level with the 2A) are posted on a regular basis. Three of the most insidious states are California, New York and Illinois yet the latter is home to murder capital of the country.

In all honesty, if you truly think the War On Guns in America is little more than a disagreement about background checks you are probably so far behind the curve that you may not be able to catch up.

**Rogerbh** · January 17th, 2024, 10:12 PM

Watching Trump fellate Putin in Helsinki was enough for me.

The guy loves dictators.

He totally ignores the laws that other Presidents have followed.

Tax returns, putting businesses in blind trusts, etc.

He tells more lies than all the other presidents that I can remember.

Fuck Trump and Fuck Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...asion-00010923

Pompous jerk needs to be run over by a tank.

January 16th, 2024, 10:27 AM	#1
aegean Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 468 Thanks: 4,010 Thanked 2,576 Times in 454 Posts	Trump: The end of Democracy and the start of fascism HOW Quite simply how? The left press such as Joy Reid rant on about this but not how it could even happen? Could it happen? I don't see how, could someone please explain how it could conceivably happen? Thank you

January 16th, 2024, 01:28 PM	#2
LadyLuck Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,057 Thanks: 136 Thanked 10,477 Times in 1,247 Posts	Trump prevented that from happening (for now) in November 2016. I realize that fascism is often identified as a far-right movement but I see a rise in fascism in the US (if at all) coming from the left, not from the right. The left are the ones who want to disarm the public. Ring any bells?

January 16th, 2024, 08:56 PM	#3
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,915 Thanks: 50,529 Thanked 91,203 Times in 10,753 Posts	Trump shows many signs of wanting to be a dictator. I do think he will be assassinated within two years if he is re-elected. I do long for the return of a moderate leader in the US. Fuck the extremists on both ends of the party spectrums.

January 17th, 2024, 06:15 PM	#8
ellpieski Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Area 51 Posts: 1,817 Thanks: 9,493 Thanked 10,088 Times in 1,798 Posts	As for the rise of Fascism in America, it now takes the form of liberalism and the Democrat Party. March in lockstep, no dissenting opinion is tolerated, just like the Nazis. If it walks like a nazi, talks like a nazi, sounds lika a nazi, then its a democrat.

January 17th, 2024, 10:12 PM	#10
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,915 Thanks: 50,529 Thanked 91,203 Times in 10,753 Posts	Watching Trump fellate Putin in Helsinki was enough for me. The guy loves dictators. He totally ignores the laws that other Presidents have followed. Tax returns, putting businesses in blind trusts, etc. He tells more lies than all the other presidents that I can remember. Fuck Trump and Fuck Biden. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...asion-00010923 Pompous jerk needs to be run over by a tank.