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July 6th, 2016, 08:59 AM | #41 | |
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How many AUPH modelling names are shared by or closely related to those used by The Latent Image? How many AUPH modelling names are shared by or closely related to those used by Hot Shots (probably Stephen Hicks)? I asked here quite some time ago for an explanation for the assertion once made that AUPH model names are "notoriously unreliable", but that seems not to have eventuated. Why? What is the threshold for "unreliability"? Is there perhaps a ratio percentage and if so what is it or what should it be? |
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July 6th, 2016, 11:22 PM | #42 | |
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This is always going to be subjective; there is no threshold or percentage. At the time we hadn't seen many examples of verifiable model names from this source. Since then we've uncovered many new aka's and their sources. I freely admit my earlier assertion has proven to be wrong and I'm glad it has been. This shows the value of all of us collaborating and sharing any info and sources we discover. Finding and sharing these new sources is so important to our mission here. Like you said the TLI source material has proven to be a gold mine of information but there was almost nothing available from this source until I started publishing the catalogs and I still have a long way to go. But we wouldn't want to accept any of these model names without some corroboration, either. In fact we've seen many which are used nowhere else so they would not be a good name to use commonly unless there is no other forthcoming. This also illustrates the value of our Special Projects section. There is a wealth of information available there most of which would never be known without the efforts of the members who started the projects and those who contribute to them. |
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November 17th, 2017, 01:37 AM | #43 |
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This is the contrast I'm meaning.
A member types a 2-part model name into a vef post and a) it's accepted, if that post's located in some part(s) of vef, but b) questioned, with a request for additional evidence, if that post's located in some other part(s) of vef. I'm all for b), evidence wherever possible. Is it simply that VintageBob hasn't logged in since 2017-06, so we can't ask him from where that name came, that's the problem? |
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March 11th, 2018, 02:34 AM | #44 |
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May 23rd, 2018, 09:59 AM | #45 | |
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e.g. Challenge 1971-72 had a "Libby" whose photos were republished a few years later (1974-76) as "Donna Dole". And the model in my avatar had at least FOUR names (one first-last, three first-only) in 1977-79 Challenge issues, as well as at least three names (first-only) in SIR! |
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December 15th, 2019, 08:39 PM | #47 | |
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February 22nd, 2022, 09:58 PM | #48 |
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It's a professional modelling handle. What does "accuracy" actually mean, in such a context?
No really, a genuine (non-leading) question. I see/find such language used frequently by various folk in this same context, a context of scepticism about many and various magazine titles, as if some are somehow "more" believable than others, but step back for a moment and really think about it. A professional modelling handle is something like Ziggy Stardust... or David Bowie, for that matter. Yes, both are made-up names. We think of the DB handle as if it were "real" or "believable", and it has become so, but only through usage, itself a product of fame (no, not the song). NB, the above is not meant as picking on Jazz67 at all, I've simply used his words to (hopefully) start a thought process. In terms of mag. believablity: Mayfair published quite a few models more than once, and I haven't done a proper statistical analysis but know that often they were given different names from their earlier appearances--whether simply because of different photogs. or what one can speculate but that's not the most relevant at the moment. Yet despite that we somehow treat Mayfair names as readily believable but other mags. less-so. Is that simply also "fame", i.e. our accustomisation to Mayfair on this site? Which itself was simply an accident of what mags. folks had and scanned relatively early-on in this site. Yes, they're useful for often being two-part. But somehow we apply different standards to different mag. titles. An (e.g.) Mayfair name is accepted even if only used once, whereas in another mag. quite early on someone may well write what Jazz67 did above. A further thought experiment: why do folk here seem to prefer the earlier-published (e.g. Mayfair) handle over later ones (even from the same mag. title)? Just because a handle is earlier doesn't actually make it in any way "closer" to some imagined "originality". In terms of real people we tend to prefer later handles when people change their name--e.g. name changes, married surnames, etc. Last edited by effCup; February 22nd, 2022 at 11:50 PM.. Reason: cl. |
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February 22nd, 2022, 10:20 PM | #49 | |
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A persistent rumour on vef is that mag editors (& associates) sit round drinking/smoking in their offices whilst inventing different handles for models they're going to feature in their next issue. Frankly, I think they seldom had such spare time, with lots of better things to be doing with their time. Did they even ever actually meet the model(s) in question? Maybe for mags. that were trying for "exclusives"--often Playboy, sometimes Penthouse, etc. but I'm not sure how many other titles could afford such aspirations. Many mags. could never afford to have their own "staff" photogs. I'll bet a lot of models were only ever the print or negative samples sent/submitted by photogs. for consideration. In which case there hardly is any "model" to know and then try to disguise--I'm speaking of/on the role of the mag editorial staff. If someone working on a mag. happens to notice that model X appeared twice in a given issue, possibly under different handles, is that really the editor who arranged it, or was it simply the material that got submitted from/by various photogs? It's not quite the same level of churn as with tomorrow's chip-wrapper, but somewhat. That is, I'm saying model sets mostly simply arrived as sets, as stuff to publish. Photogs., on the other hand, had perhaps a handful of current and/or recent models whom they wanted to flog to various mag. titles, preferably for as much or perhaps as often as they could. It is not always the case, but there are repeated patterns of model names seemingly being associated with photogs.--i.e. photog. A called a given model X, or variations thereof, while photog. B called the same model Y, or variations thereof. Wigs are indeed a disguise, and so too model handles, but by whom and for which purposes? I'm not saying mags. didn't ever change model handles, but I am suggesting a different picture of the activities involved. |
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From a pragmatic point of view I see two qualities in a name:
Had the model been just called Mary in the mag, that would be a next to useless name. In my own database I tend to go with whatever name I find first, but I occasionally rename models if a name with better recognition emerges later. Names like "Mary" I tend to ignore, and treat the models as unknowns instead. That Mayfair is regarded so highly as a name-setter on VEF is purely a historical accident: Mayfair pictorials were plentiful in early VEF and so they became a naming resource.
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