Bettie Page Discussion

[bwbo]

What is the context of the open legged photos, and the ones with various men? Camera club shots?

what is generally regarded as the raunchiest photo of betty to surface? (as subjective as that term may be)

[tsunamiSD]

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[cginok]

In case you guys have never seen it, the "Bettie Page Reveals All" documentary is excellent. A few years before her death someone managed to interview her. It is audio only by Bettie's request. I remembered hearing parts of it several years ago. The documentary contains lengthy portions of that interview. There are plenty of pics and videos of her. Interviews with Hefner, Bunny Yeager, even audio with some of her exes. All of whom attested to her prowess in the bedroom. There is one really short clip with her voice in it from her prime years. She had a really nice voice I should add. You can find it on Netflix, that's where I found it.

[cginok]

Originally Posted by bwbo

What is the context of the open legged photos, and the ones with various men? Camera club shots?

what is generally regarded as the raunchiest photo of betty to surface? (as subjective as that term may be)

A lot of her shots were camera clubs. She said it would be 2 or 3 dozen men, and 3 or 4 girls.

Bettie said that she was drunk when they took the pics of her with her legs open. She said it was the first time in her life she had ever been drunk and that those were the only photos she was ashamed of.

[trixi]

two questions to the experts here:

Wich photographer made the explicit shots from Bettie?
Exists a free programm to compare and sort out pics ?
I have some thousand fotos from Bettie and it is not possible to sort doubles out by hand and compare sizes and quatity...

Thanks for your help!!

[ccmk]

Originally Posted by cginok

A lot of her shots were camera clubs. She said it would be 2 or 3 dozen men, and 3 or 4 girls.

Bettie said that she was drunk when they took the pics of her with her legs open. She said it was the first time in her life she had ever been drunk and that those were the only photos she was ashamed of.

I do think you have to be careful with what she says, as she is not always reliable for a number of reasons, particularly such as age (her recounting was over 40 years in the past). She also had various psychiatric problems that complicated her life. She claimed the only explicit shots were when she was drunk, but there are a number of photos where her legs are open and her vulva is visible from different shoots, such as the ones when she is reading the sex report and another in which she is on a bed with suspenders on, and so on. It is also possible we have never seen the ones she is remembering.

Also note most of the photos we see are copies of copies and copies of prints, not high-res scans from negatives, so, given also her dense pubic hair, we now usually only see a black patch, whereas a clearer scan of the original might be much more explicit.

Also, apparently thousands of her photos were destroyed by scared photographers when the senate committee was investigating her. Finally, most photos from photography club members were never published (they were mostly amateurs after all), so I wonder how many were left to rot as the photographer aged and died, or are still sitting in an attic with grandpa's other knick-knacks.

[cginok]

Originally Posted by ccmk

I do think you have to be careful with what she says, as she is not always reliable for a number of reasons, particularly such as age (her recounting was over 40 years in the past). She also had various psychiatric problems that complicated her life. She claimed the only explicit shots were when she was drunk, but there are a number of photos where her legs are open and her vulva is visible from different shoots, such as the ones when she is reading the sex report and another in which she is on a bed with suspenders on, and so on. It is also possible we have never seen the ones she is remembering.

Also note most of the photos we see are copies of copies and copies of prints, not high-res scans from negatives, so, given also her dense pubic hair, we now usually only see a black patch, whereas a clearer scan of the original might be much more explicit.

Also, apparently thousands of her photos were destroyed by scared photographers when the senate committee was investigating her. Finally, most photos from photography club members were never published (they were mostly amateurs after all), so I wonder how many were left to rot as the photographer aged and died, or are still sitting in an attic with grandpa's other knick-knacks.

I did get the impression that she was, by claiming she was duped if you will, into posing "spread legged" that she was trying to do a little image salvaging. Trying to make it look like all the other modelling she did was art not porn or being slutty. It's a mindset a lot of models have/had. "Well I didn't have my legs spread open showing my pussy, only closed legs from the front showing bush, so it was art."

As I mentioned, she said it was the only pictures that she was ashamed of. She made mention of some other things happening that night that she was ashamed of. Kinda hinted that there was some sexual activity that happened. I can't imagine some guys getting her drunk, getting her nude, getting her spread legged, and not getting some. I, and it's just a hunch on my part, think that the camera guys that night got some, and that there might even be pics of it.

At the end of the documentary they interviewed Irving Klaw's daughter, who is now the keeper of the family treasures. I would add that she seemed to have quite a collection of pictures. There were shelves full of pics. She said that she had in their picture collection pics of Betty that had never been seen, and would never be seen. Once again, seeing as how they've never had any reservations about publishing pics of Betty, that there might be some sex pics in existence that she's keeping private. Why else would she want to keep them private?

I forgot to mention something in earlier posts that I remembered later. Sometime in the 80s or 90s, when she had a resurgence in popularity, she got an agent/lawyer, who managed to get her some royalties for her pics and other things with her image on it. Not that she got filthy rich, but she apparently lived comfortably for the last decade or so of her life.

[trixi]

Forgot something to tell.
I have all explicit images in best to find resolution and there is clear to see on hair style, clothes, interior etc. that this pics was made on different days and locations. So she must be made drunk VERY often.............. :-)
I would top ccmk´s statement and would say, she wasn´t reliable for 100%!
Who beats up his husband and get arrested makes also porn pics for SURE ! LOL :-)
Was the "black gloves" serie also done by photo club ??
A good addition to all pics wich was posted here is ilpaesedicuccagna.it/L1/L2/L3_Playmates/1955/Page/Page.htm
Some galleries don´t work and site is very slow sometimes. Best way is to fusker each gallery from 01-99 and on the non working galleries you have to check the real name by right click the thumb! Easy to figure out how it works. It´s a good site but the owner has no idea how to make propper websites. Anyway, while fusker them, you get also some pics wich don´t show up while watching the galleries. He has some rare stuff wich is not to find anywere else on the web.

[trixi]

Originally Posted by tsunamiSD

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Is the Pussy visible and has it real pubic hair if you put off the leather corset ???
If not, it is just another stupid "toy" :-)
I still waiting that real dolls offers a authentic Bettie version :-)

[trixi]

Originally Posted by sparks27

This one is from photographer Allan Cobert :-)

There are two series I know. One with the striped shed in the background and one with it on the bed.