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July 10th, 2017, 11:06 PM | #3781 | |
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BUT honestly, this president is a caricature of a leader. It's very difficult to trust in him. His attitude looks terribly doubtful. Sometimes he acts like Mussolini. I was not a fan of George W Bush Jr, but at least he seemed to look... normal, not very clever, but normal. Donald (I'll call him by his first name ) seems to be a really really narcissistic and megalomaniac man. This is very worrying. USA has lost a lot of its credibility. Damned you had other Republican candidates... Why this clown? Last edited by Roubignol; July 10th, 2017 at 11:12 PM.. |
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July 10th, 2017, 11:39 PM | #3782 | |
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One of the statues in New Orleans commemorated an 1874 riot by white supremacists. Another commemorated General P.G.T. Beauregard who was a pretty inept commander. Reading up on Jefferson Davis, it is surprising to discover how widely he was disliked within the Confederacy during its brief existence. One must admit that the rebellion would likely have been suppressed much earlier if not for the skillful generalship of Robert E. Lee, but that judgment is clouded by the ineptness of his opponents prior to Grant. In reality, the country has been quite tolerant in allowing people to openly display symbols of treason and rebellion. It would be quite in order to prosecute Confederate flag wavers or perhaps even shoot them on sight. If I were a black man, it would be awfully tempting to do so. Last edited by Arturo2nd; July 10th, 2017 at 11:41 PM.. Reason: oops |
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Taking down monuments to wrong thinking is not re-writing history. Actually the history taught to me was way off base. I was taught the war was not so much about slavery but people just wanting to govern themselves. And I'm not even from the South.
Lincolns death pretty much diluted most of what could have happened. Johnson may have actually been pro-slavery. Southern Democrats spent the next hundred years trying to explain away the horror that was slavery. Those monuments were erected by people who tried to romanticize bravery and honor. There's no honor in fighting to keep someone else in bondage. Americans have long missed the mark on some aspects of our own history. What do we think the Alamo was fought over? Not what they taught me in school. |
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July 11th, 2017, 07:29 AM | #3784 | |
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The others were some kind of (I think unelectable) "other clowns" too. (Just follow the posts of 'scoundrel' in one of those "US presidential" threads). (And the US are having more than those 2 parties too, everybody is talking about, one couldn't believe it.).
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In reality, the country has been quite tolerant in allowing people to openly display symbols of treason and rebellion. It would be quite in order to prosecute Confederate flag wavers or perhaps even shoot them on sight. If I were a black man, it would be awfully tempting to do so.
Very strictly speaking what you call the Revolution was a rebellion and the Southern states had every right to voluntarily withdraw from a union that they had voluntarily joined. They were not treasonous because they were acting within the law and within the terms of their own legal codes. |
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If the Democrats had put up Bernie Sanders as their candidate would he have had a realistic chance of winning?
I like what I read of him, but then I admit to being a commie, pinko, tree hugging, lefty anarchist who can't wait for the revolution to come so we can put all the Political Conservatives and Capitalist Running Dogs up against the wall and shoot them comrades. Last edited by Sir Honkers; July 11th, 2017 at 11:49 AM.. |
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But just one point, in all the European democracies, Hillary would have been the President. I don't know about Australia, Canada and NZ. As European... Trump is not a real president. He's a TOTAL joke. His behaviour and the way how he became the President. Unbelievable. |
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This vote 2016 had been clearly an Anti-Hillary-Clinton vote. I think not because she is a woman; because she is Hillary. The FBI investigations against her gave her the rest. She was so unpopular as a person, that it would have been better for her to give up - in fortune to Bernie Sanders. But - what's important in the US - she had been able to collect more funds as him. He earned much less publicity through all the media than Hillary. That's obvious, because Bernie Sanders had to step a lot of people on the feet (the Wall Street for example), explaining to ordinary people what went wrong in the US. While he was vilified in the US as a "commie", over here in Europe he would have been a "boringly normal Social - Democrat".
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July 11th, 2017, 12:43 PM | #3789 | |
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But that's the same with Macron in France. He doesn't look as crazy as Trump, but.... Your German president seems to be a real President. Clever, mentally stable. You are a lucky people. |
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Andrew Jackson had made it clear during his administration that talk of "nullification" and "secession" was treasonous. He established the precedent that the federal government would use armed force against any state government that attempted to assert such imaginary rights. It is extremely doubtful that Jackson would have exercised the restraint and spirit of conciliation demonstrated by Lincoln and Grant. 'Jackson would have the final words a few days later when a visitor from South Carolina asked if Jackson had any message he wanted relayed to his friends back in the state. Jackson’s reply was: "Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.[68]" ' quoted from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis |
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