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Old May 20th, 2018, 09:23 PM   #33601
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Neither Sam,scoundrel,Rupert or indeed Myself are American..
American are a sort of British.

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You know what I've noticed this week - this thread pretty much devolves into pointless bickering and very rarely seems to be about things noticible this week ...
Tomorrow it's Monday and we need to have fun.
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Neither Sam,scoundrel,Rupert or indeed Myself are American..
I'm not either

I think Russia should be classed not as a country but as an asset run by a few oligarchies, many of whose children are educated in the uk.

We will persuade them one way or the other
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You know what I've noticed this week - this thread pretty much devolves into pointless bickering and very rarely seems to be about things noticible this week ...
We've already discussed Harry Hewitt marrying Wallis Markle,What else is there this week ?
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Old May 20th, 2018, 09:38 PM   #33604
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American are a sort of British.

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Just remember that the Yanks are our dangerously mental population who were expelled for safety's sake.

The rest of us are either 'normal' or merely 'endearingly eccentric'.
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We've already discussed Harry Hewitt marrying Wallis Markle,What else is there this week ?
Newcastle Falcons losing their third semi final to Exeter this season!

Rugby Union Lost Anglo Welsh, Premier A and Premiership semis, oh yeah and also lost to Gloucester in The European Challenge Cup!

It is noticeable in my family!
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Ok, put them all up for re-election. I'd be ok with that. The problem is that you wouldn't get an honest outcome, because some countries accept bribes, and are susceptible to pressure. Just look at the "coalition of the willing"

Actually, most people in the world don't agree with you. You're just not told
As I asked a question to Rumpert, I'd ask you a question.

We can blame a lot of things against Occidental governments, but we (as Occidental citizen) have the possibilities to get informations that prove they not always were fair. Sometimes it's because they have to protect lobbies, sometimes it's because they have to protect our own life standard. It would be an hypocrisy to say that Occidental people would live like Indian or Somalian people.

But as you have observed, we often blame our own politicians.

Which kind of counter analysis there is in Russia today ?
Are you sure that Putin is not manipulated by a Russian plutocracy too ?
A lot of us (as I'm) suspect that huge financial interests dictate the rules of our Occidental leaders.
Is it the same in Russia today?
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You know what I've noticed this week - this thread pretty much devolves into pointless bickering and very rarely seems to be about things noticible this week ...

Oh no it doesn't


Stop me if you've heard this one a few hundred times

Texas school shooting: Arm teachers to stop gunmen, official says
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44187718

The answer is always more guns and decades after the tragedy of Columbine and hundreds of dead children that is the only proposal that is on the table.

I'm so glad I was born in Britain where the only thing I had to worry about in school was maybe some twat throwing a fist at me, a good well placed fast moving foot to the nuts could take care of that.

It's just an observation so in the spirit of Davemetalhead's post above I won't reply to any enraged gun supporters as we are at totally opposite ends of the spectrum with no common ground at all.
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I think the Soviet Union....sorry, Russia is far worse than The US, Israel or anyone else, I think North Korea is the only other country to actively attempt to murder political opponents residing in foreign countries. .

Annexing parts of the Ukraine, casting it's greedy eyes over the Baltic nations, interfering in the democratic processes of other nations, actively conducting cyber warfare against western nations, the list goes on, Putin is a dangerous man, and a brutal dictator (in all but name)
How about killing US defectors? Check this out:

https://aim.org/publications/special...TIME06-15.html

US Cyber warfare? Take a look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

US meddling with foreign politics? Surely not:

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/an...0608-0031.html

This is just the stuff we know a little about.
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If you are going to cite Peter Arnett and Operation Tailwind, you should include all the allegations and retractions made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tailwind
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My friend, Ukraine & Russia have been the same country for hundreds of years. Kiev is the mother of all Russian cities, if you didn't know

If you worried about Donetsk, the people who live there are Russian. If you're worried about Crimea, 97% of the people voted to join Russia. When the 15,000 Ukrainian troops were asked to leave, they did it, and there was no bloodshed

The problem in Ukraine is US-financed political interference. I know your media don't tell you that, but that's the way it is
This is called "irredentism". The territory of another country is not yours to take whether you have issued passports to people living there or not.
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