Militant Islamists

**SanteeFats** · January 9th, 2015, 12:52 AM

Is it time to start expelling Muslim extremists and those who are deemed to be a terrorist threat? There are so many Muslims on watch/do not fly lists in so many countries. Most do not seem to do much UNTIL they do. See France. Is it time to kick them out of their respective countries? Let them land wherever? Yes this seems racists for those who view it that way but face it - radical Muslims are the primary cause of death and destruction in today's world. Speak up people!!!

**tamsmith** · January 9th, 2015, 01:01 AM

Why not just give them Social Security Benefits to allow them and their several wives and offspring to live an easy life, far beyond the life of the majority, in the hope that they will not radicalise the younger generation.

Oops sorry, it's been tried and it did not work.......

swampthing 3rd · January 9th, 2015, 01:04 AM

Expell them to where?

Would you also want every Catholic and Jew child abuser expelled? Or is child rape and male genital mutilation acceptable?

**SanteeFats** · January 9th, 2015, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by swampthing 3rd

Expell them to where?

Would you also want every Catholic and Jew child abuser expelled? Or is child rape and male genital mutilation acceptable?

I do believe you did not read the original post with an open mind, thing. First I believe they should become nationless unless some country wishes to accept them, but why should the nations they are in continue to support them when they are such a risk to the law abiding populace?
Where the hell did you extrapolate Catholic and Jewish child abusers, child rape, and mutilation out of this thread?
No I would not expel those scum, I would want them sent to jail or even executed.

**tamsmith** · January 9th, 2015, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by swampthing 3rd

Expell them to where?

Would you also want every Catholic and Jew child abuser expelled? Or is child rape and male genital mutilation acceptable?

Neither is Female genital mutilation acceptable.

**buttsie** · January 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM

For everyone you deport there would be countless others with clean records to replace them

Pakistan alone could supply new recruits for ever in a day given the religious schools get them young - population of 100million+

The Pakistan army are fighting a losing battle against them

You'd have to stop tourism in its tracks given how many visitors overstay their visas

If you seriously want to put and end to the current levels of terrorism recruitment then i'd suggest starting with the dismantling of the arms industry

The 5 countries on the security council supply 75% of all arms
History says they sell to both sides in any conflict.

We wonder why theres a radical element who are trying to bring that to our doorstep

The destruction that has brought over many decades in a multitude of countries is directly responsible for the rise in the Jihadist ranks.

Its not who wields the weapon but who supplies it thats key

**contour1** · February 24th, 2015, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by buttsie

If you seriously want to put and end to the current levels of terrorism recruitment then i'd suggest starting with the dismantling of the arms industry

Oh yes because the Charlie Hebdo killings showed that if you don't have a weapon they wont... oh wait..

**scoundrel** · February 25th, 2015, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by contour1

Oh yes because the Charlie Hebdo killings showed that if you don't have a weapon they wont... oh wait..

Couldn't possibly happen in America could it? Having an armed society protects you from ever being attacked by gunmen, doesn't it, Contour1?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map

Oops; maybe not.

SoIGotTheGroov · March 1st, 2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by buttsie

For everyone you deport there would be countless others with clean records to replace them

Pakistan alone could supply new recruits for ever in a day given the religious schools get them young - population of 100million+

The Pakistan army are fighting a losing battle against them

You'd have to stop tourism in its tracks given how many visitors overstay their visas

If you seriously want to put and end to the current levels of terrorism recruitment then i'd suggest starting with the dismantling of the arms industry

The 5 countries on the security council supply 75% of all arms
History says they sell to both sides in any conflict.

We wonder why theres a radical element who are trying to bring that to our doorstep

The destruction that has brought over many decades in a multitude of countries is directly responsible for the rise in the Jihadist ranks.

Its not who wields the weapon but who supplies it thats key

First, hello there and happy to be welcomed in this lovely forum. It' does not sound as a pipe dream to my ears... at all...

As a french I can tell you how I feel depressed before voting: you wanna vote for a better life for everyone, right ? not only yours, cos' it's the deal... well the deal they, politicians, promise you.

When my country sells 24 Rafale fighters and say "hourra !! victory !! we beat the 'ricans for the first time !!" to a country who kills pacific protesters and jails atheists (France is supposed to be laïc way before the Charlie hebdo killings, it started in 1905), I'm really disapointed.

When my country supports massive animal killings in slaughterhouses and industrial dairy farming (ok now you know... I'm vegan) while in the same time pretending saving the planet with our president travelling all around the world to give lessons to any Head of State possible about environment (read this http://www.theguardian.com/environme...meat-free-diet and then this http://www.english.rfi.fr/economy/20...y-farm-protest), I can tell you where hypocrisy lives: for sure in 1 of the 5 top countries of the UN security council.

Yup, problem is guns, weapons, and also lobbies, money then ! and also nationalist feeling, traditionalism, religion, anything that tear us appart (sorry, couldn't resist that quote lol!).

It's not a pipe dream to me, I was watching to a Mourad Boudjellal interview today (I'm a rugby fan) saying that you can do anything you want, we're already living in a global world: people all around the world plays the same video games, watch the same soaps, watch the same porn ! listen to the same music (I frequently speaks jazz funk music with an iranian bass player on social media, go figure !!), so yeah it's now really time to eradicate all chauvinisms and go global.

Last but not the least, my favorite quote from my favorite writer and lecturer, Jiddu Krishnamurti:

“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”

You can't get peace with guns, you can't get peace with religions, you can't get pace with money. History proved it too many times.

swampthing 3rd · January 10th, 2015, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tamsmith

Neither is Female genital mutilation acceptable.

I thought it was only baby boys the jews mutilate. Who cuts girls?

January 9th, 2015, 12:52 AM	#1
SanteeFats Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Santee, Ca Posts: 60,833 Thanks: 281,852 Thanked 814,017 Times in 60,881 Posts	Militant Islamists Is it time to start expelling Muslim extremists and those who are deemed to be a terrorist threat? There are so many Muslims on watch/do not fly lists in so many countries. Most do not seem to do much UNTIL they do. See France. Is it time to kick them out of their respective countries? Let them land wherever? Yes this seems racists for those who view it that way but face it - radical Muslims are the primary cause of death and destruction in today's world. Speak up people!!!

January 9th, 2015, 01:01 AM	#2
tamsmith Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coming close to the Slippery Slope. Posts: 7,800 Thanks: 77,915 Thanked 280,415 Times in 9,078 Posts	Why not just give them Social Security Benefits to allow them and their several wives and offspring to live an easy life, far beyond the life of the majority, in the hope that they will not radicalise the younger generation. Oops sorry, it's been tried and it did not work.......

January 9th, 2015, 01:04 AM	#3
swampthing 3rd Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 56 Thanks: 66 Thanked 323 Times in 39 Posts	Expell them to where? Would you also want every Catholic and Jew child abuser expelled? Or is child rape and male genital mutilation acceptable?

January 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM	#6
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,301 Times in 12,746 Posts	For everyone you deport there would be countless others with clean records to replace them Pakistan alone could supply new recruits for ever in a day given the religious schools get them young - population of 100million+ The Pakistan army are fighting a losing battle against them You'd have to stop tourism in its tracks given how many visitors overstay their visas If you seriously want to put and end to the current levels of terrorism recruitment then i'd suggest starting with the dismantling of the arms industry The 5 countries on the security council supply 75% of all arms History says they sell to both sides in any conflict. We wonder why theres a radical element who are trying to bring that to our doorstep The destruction that has brought over many decades in a multitude of countries is directly responsible for the rise in the Jihadist ranks. Its not who wields the weapon but who supplies it thats key