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Old 03-14-2010, 09:54 AM   #171
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I was just making an observation regarding what linguistic scholars consider to be the difference between "accent", "dialectic", and "language". In English, people rarely say something like "He spoke in a Canadian dialectic". In fact, I've never heard anyone say such a thing or anything even approaching it. Not even linguists.

On the other hand, we always read that Cantonese and Mandarin are two "dialects" of Chinese. The fact is that Cantonese and Mandarin are mutually unintelligible--completely different languages, not "accents" or "dialects".

On the third hand, Portuguese and Spanish are different "languages", but the people can generally understand each other. In Italy there are hundreds of local "dialects" that outsiders cannot understand. In Germany, High German is the official "accent" that only people with a hundred or two square kilometers of each other actually speak.

Meanwhile, if a bus driver from Edinburgh sat down with a bus driver from Houston to have a beer...well, yes, it would help to have an interpreter.

It amuses me greatly that a huge percent of U.S. airport workers are African Americans, meaning that it is nearly impossible for someone traveling to the U.S. to avoid trying to understand their "accent"; yet black English is not taught in your average English as a Second Language textbook, so if you have only had school English good luck trying to understand that customs official....

So by "political" I mean that the way we actually use the terms "accent", "dialect" and "language" depend not on any scientific definitions, but how we perceive our commonalities and differences within that larger community that shares the...a..."language". Or accent. Or dialect. Or whatever it is.

I have heard Germans say with a completely straight face that they can speak both English and "Amerikanisch". In fact, on the publisher's information page of a book translated from a book originally published in the U.S., you will find that the book has been translated from the "Amerikanisch", even if the author is British. Figure that one out! Now, are they implying that English and American are different languages? Or different dialects?

I have no idea what they do with books translated from Chinese.

Personally, I'm so confused about all of this that I highly recommend we all take a break to have a beer or two and look at some porn. Then we'll all come back here and elaborate on the relationship between tips and tits....

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Old 04-15-2010, 07:07 PM   #172
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On another track,My wife has started watching "House" ,I don't usually watch it but I'm struck by Hugh Laurie's accent,I think it's terrible and I don't know how He gets away with it.I'd be interested to know what American members think of it,I view it as our revenge for Dick Van Dyke and Keanu Reeves in "Frank Coppola's Dracula".
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On another track,My wife has started watching "House" ,I don't usually watch it but I'm struck by Hugh Laurie's accent,I think it's terrible and I don't know how He gets away with it.I'd be interested to know what American members think of it,I view it as our revenge for Dick Van Dyke and Keanu Reeves in "Frank Coppola's Dracula".
What about his accent? You have to remember that the US generates a few score accents just among its native English speaking population, let alone all the immigrants (legal and illegal) and people who just can't speak straight to save their own lives. Most Americans probably aren't even noticing it since its no where near as hard to understand as many we have to deal with everyday in real life.
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G'day American members

Need some advise
I have this store, USA FOODS, about an hour from my place. I want too visit it and need advise on what brands too pick and brands too stay away from. Too give ya'll an idea, I love hot and spicy foods, most meat meals. I'm mainly after condiments and junk food snacks, ie chocolates, chips etc...
I ain't a weight watcher or calorie counter either far from it.

Feel free too PM me or post here, either way, I'm hungry
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What about his accent? You have to remember that the US generates a few score accents just among its native English speaking population, let alone all the immigrants (legal and illegal) and people who just can't speak straight to save their own lives. Most Americans probably aren't even noticing it since its no where near as hard to understand as many we have to deal with everyday in real life.
Dr. House uses a refined Midwestern accent often employed by American television presenters, but House's tone is always sarcastic and irritated.
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On another track,My wife has started watching "House" ,I don't usually watch it but I'm struck by Hugh Laurie's accent,I think it's terrible and I don't know how He gets away with it.I'd be interested to know what American members think of it,I view it as our revenge for Dick Van Dyke and Keanu Reeves in "Frank Coppola's Dracula".

The actress Lisa Edelstein, who I believe plays Dr Cuddy in House, was last week interviewed on some UK daytime show and was asked this very question. She maintained that she and the rest of the cast of the show regard his American accent to be utterly convincing. She went on to tell of how when American TV executives met Laurie in person after having seen his audition tapes in which he spoke with an American accent, they were surprised to learn that he was in fact English.

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P.S. I wasn't aware that Dick Van Dyke appeared in Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula.
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G'day American members

Need some advise
I have this store, USA FOODS, about an hour from my place. I want too visit it and need advise on what brands too pick and brands too stay away from. Too give ya'll an idea, I love hot and spicy foods, most meat meals. I'm mainly after condiments and junk food snacks, ie chocolates, chips etc...
I ain't a weight watcher or calorie counter either far from it.

Feel free too PM me or post here, either way, I'm hungry
for hot sauces, McIlHenney brand is well known and popular. its more a pour on your food sauce than a dipping sauce. Pace and Ortega are very common brands that I don't like much. Carroll Shelby's chili starter is popular, but I havent used it.

I don't see any premium brands for sodas, but if you havent had a Dr. Pepper, try that (get the original)

for sauces, I love dona maria's mole (moe-lay) sauce. its kinda chocolaty and spicy. you mix it with water and heat, and it absorbs water to get to be a nice thick sauce. great in enchiladas. avoid "old el paso" and "taco bell" products, nothing special there. generic fare.

i have practically lived on jif crunchy peanut butter combined with fritos corn chips.

Knotts jellies are the best of the lot.
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Casey Jones was a train engineer I believe in the 1800's who stayed with the engine trying to stop it rather than jump and save himself when he was about to crash into another train. It was something we learned in elementary school history.
As I posted before, "To have a Jones for" something is old black slang. It has nothing to do with the Grateful Dead.
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There's said to be a failsafe way of recognising a Canadian - make him say "xxxxxx" - but I can never remember what it is

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On another track,My wife has started watching "House" ,I don't usually watch it but I'm struck by Hugh Laurie's accent,I think it's terrible and I don't know how He gets away with it.
I'm a connoisseur of bad accents and I think Laurie's try at Yank is perfectly acceptable, if somewhat nasal (as UK actors often are when trying to sound American).

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The brilliantly talented Van Dyke gives a great singing and dancing performance in Mary Poppins. Maybe 'is accent is a bit 'opeless, myte, but as Anthony Hopkins said in a documentary about Van Dyke, "Who cares?"
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