[solved PMT] Andrea Bach / Marta Cegledi - Who is Hazel ?

[tenfan]

Thanks all...

MB followup thread here.

[sandhunter]

knave vol. 28

[mikami]

This lovely girl popped up in quite a lot of mag sets in the mid-'90s. Here are a just a couple of examples posted on VEF:

Mayfair vol 29 no 11 (in which she went under the name Mandy Harrison):

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...&postcount=493

Mens World vol 6 no 12 (appearing as Andrea Bach):

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...7&postcount=37

Neither of these names brings up a dedicated thread, though and I don't recall ever seeing one for her on my VEF travels. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on this one!

[effCup]

Above link for Mandy Harrison's set in Mayfair 29-11, 1994 now amended to here.

edit: any reason why "Mandy Harrison" is an unsatisfactory id/thread title?

[Pepper II]

Not especially. But so far we have three mag appearances with three different names (not that this is so unusual). One of these would make a satisfactory thread title qualified by the magazine name but not so much as a solve for our purpose.

[effCup]

Originally Posted by Pepper II

Not especially. But so far we have three mag appearances with three different names (not that this is so unusual).

Right, so the "problem" it poses is simply that it breaks our collective illusion regarding the "reality" of most of these professional names. Many models had multiple professional handles. We can't avoid all arbitrariness when deciding a "best-known-as", yet we try to convince ourselves that we are.

Had mikami mentioned only one possible 2-part name would we then have gladly taken that as a solve? Note I'm not criticising either mikami or that there was a "wait" following his post as I think that's wise, just to see if anything else turned up in the meantime.

Originally Posted by Pepper II

One of these would make a satisfactory thread title qualified by the magazine name but not so much as a solve for our purpose.

I wouldn't have thought Hazel (Knave) was as satisfactory as either Mandy Harrison or Andrea Bach?

There is an arbitrariness in preferring her Mayfair name over her Men's World name, but it'd be just as arbitrary to cast our preference the other way... unless there was some other factor to tip the issue. As yet there doesn't appear to be. Is that sufficient reason, though, to not make the query solved? /shrug/

[Pepper II]

I don't think we're going to start accepting one magazine reference as a solve.

[effCup]

Originally Posted by Pepper II

I don't think we're going to start accepting one magazine reference as a solve.

When did MIR change to that? I thought that had been the criteria for years? That's why I wrote this & related, because it seemed to me that the criteria were being made more difficult that previously.

I don't have a list handy but I can think of plenty of past examples of MIR solves where a single mag. appearance with a two part name was accepted and marked "solved". /shrug/ Indeed the very one that that earlier discussion related to--Pam Murgatroyd--became one such.

So at least two mag. appearances with the same two-part handle is what's now required, is it?

[Dick Needle]

I'm afraid I cannot help with the identity of this model, however, for what it's worth Men's World seemed to me to use more false names than other mags.

[Dick Needle]

She appeared with Sammi Walker (who they called Rachel Williams by the way, just one of several different model naming in this mag) in MW 06-11 (1994) using their alloted name, Andrea Bach.

Originally Posted by shar9