James Bond & Bond Girls Discussion Thread - Page 53

**Staffsyeoman** · December 5th, 2014, 04:40 PM

Ahh to be technical, Donald Pleasance wasn't cast as Blofeld originally. A Czech actor called Jan Werich was originally cast by Harry Saltzman, and actually filmed for a few days - but Lewis Gilbert and Cubby Broccoli thought he wasn't menacing enough. He was fired for looking more like a "poor benevolent Santa Claus".

Oh, and Max von Sydow played him in "Never Say Never Again"..

**Greenman** · December 5th, 2014, 04:45 PM

Yes but NSNA wasn't sanctioned by EON so it doesn't and shouldn't count as it was also remake of Thunderball.

**Mr Bond** · December 5th, 2014, 04:55 PM

It was also Anthony Dawson and the voice of Eric Pohlmann in Thunderball. Some say that the voice is the one of Joseph Wiseman. They are wrong.
Some also say that Dawson (Dent in Dr No) is the silhouette we can see and is also the voice. They are wrong too. (Ref: I know that from Terence Young first, Peter Hund said that also to me ) But I admit I long thought that Dawson was also the voice.)

Ah yes, the real name of the cat in OHMSS is Cubby.
But I do not know if this is his birth name, or a joke team, of Savalas or Lazenby, or Diana Rigg who is a woman with a lot of humor. For example, at the end of OHMSS when she drops on the thighs of Bond, and he is crying because she is dead, Lazenby told me that he found it hard to play, because she pinched him for Laughs (I do not know where to ....). It must be said that they were together at the time. (Lazenby told me this with great modesty).
So, and it's true, everybody, on the set, called the cat " Cubby ".

**Mr Bond** · December 5th, 2014, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenman

.... the original was called Comte de Bleauchamp (OHMSS) ....

Speaking of Blofeld..
It is curious that in the movie, he tries to impersonate the Count Balthazar de Bleuchamp,( blue field ) although originally, in the book of Ian Fleming, ( books of Fleming are my Bible ) the name is Count Balthazar de Bleuville.( blue town ) !
I regret not having thought of this question to Peter Hunt at our various meetings. But it's too late now...

Also, what is your favorite Blofeld, my friends fans of 007 ? I have a preference for Savalas, although Pleasance was remarkable in Yolt.
Gray in DAF was, for me, too stupid, and I'm not talking about the scene where he disguises himself as a woman ....
Referring to the original characters of Fleming, a mixture of Pleasance and Savalas would have been perfect. Pleasance for his evil and psychopath side, Savalas for his bestial side, athletic, and physically very "Eastern countries" to me, and yet... he was Greek origin.

**pharoahegypt** · December 5th, 2014, 11:19 PM

Interesting thoughts Mr Bond.... incidentally, did you know that Telly was also Jennifer Aniston's godfather... her real surname being the much longer 'Anistonopoulis' rather than the shortened version her family changed it to...?

**Greenman** · December 6th, 2014, 08:18 PM

For sheer menace I would say Donald Pleasance every time especially with his facial deformity. Charles Gray was a little too smooth and Telly Savalas lacked real menace although he made a good villain.

**Staffsyeoman** · December 6th, 2014, 10:45 PM

OK.. disallowing Max von Sydow... I'm sure thst it was no accident that Woody Allen's costume as Jimmy Bond in the glorious mess that is the first Casino Royalr is the same kind of suit favvoured by Blofeld...

**Greenman** · January 1st, 2015, 07:10 PM

Whoo hooo! The countdown to the new James Bond film SPECTRE begins-expect hype and counter hype, speculation, conspiracy theories and no doubt there will be people who wonder if it will be Craig's last(he is contracted to do one more). I was more than interested to see that Idris Elba's name was mentioned as a possible future Bond. I also noticed this moron Rush Limburgh in America is against a black James Bond...well to shut him up, I think Elba would make a good Bond, regardless of what colour he is, it will silence morons like Limburgh and others-after all who knew that the US would have a Black President! Anything is possible.

Watch this space.

**Mr Bond** · January 2nd, 2015, 12:20 PM

It is not to be racist to say Bond is White. Shaft is black and can't be white. I like Bond, and I like Shaft ( with Roundtree

).
It is not because whe are in 2015, that we can change and change everything.
But, if they want to do the adventures of another 00, it will be fun. And I will be the first in the theater to see that !

**vzok** · January 2nd, 2015, 08:25 PM

Wouldn't Idris Elba be a bit too old to be 007? Daniel Craig is signed up for the next movie (in 2018 presumably). So it might be 2021 before the next actor. He'd be the oldest actor to debut as Bond by then at nearly 50.

December 5th, 2014, 04:45 PM	#522
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,505 Times in 19,356 Posts	Yes but NSNA wasn't sanctioned by EON so it doesn't and shouldn't count as it was also remake of Thunderball. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

December 5th, 2014, 04:55 PM	#523
Mr Bond Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, Paris, Istanbul, Nassau, Las Vegas, Kobe, Piz Gloria... Posts: 6,073 Thanks: 31,066 Thanked 224,853 Times in 6,218 Posts	Blofeld part 2 / and " Cubby " revelation. It was also Anthony Dawson and the voice of Eric Pohlmann in Thunderball. Some say that the voice is the one of Joseph Wiseman. They are wrong. Some also say that Dawson (Dent in Dr No) is the silhouette we can see and is also the voice. They are wrong too. (Ref: I know that from Terence Young first, Peter Hund said that also to me ) But I admit I long thought that Dawson was also the voice.) Ah yes, the real name of the cat in OHMSS is Cubby. But I do not know if this is his birth name, or a joke team, of Savalas or Lazenby, or Diana Rigg who is a woman with a lot of humor. For example, at the end of OHMSS when she drops on the thighs of Bond, and he is crying because she is dead, Lazenby told me that he found it hard to play, because she pinched him for Laughs (I do not know where to ....). It must be said that they were together at the time. (Lazenby told me this with great modesty). So, and it's true, everybody, on the set, called the cat " Cubby ". __________________ Red wine with fish ! That should have told me something ! Mr Bond in From Russia With Love.

December 5th, 2014, 11:19 PM	#525
pharoahegypt Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle England Posts: 4,491 Thanks: 10,176 Thanked 43,617 Times in 4,154 Posts	Interesting thoughts Mr Bond.... incidentally, did you know that Telly was also Jennifer Aniston's godfather... her real surname being the much longer 'Anistonopoulis' rather than the shortened version her family changed it to...? __________________ Arguing with a intelligent person is hard; but arguing with a stupid person is impossible!

December 6th, 2014, 08:18 PM	#526
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,505 Times in 19,356 Posts	For sheer menace I would say Donald Pleasance every time especially with his facial deformity. Charles Gray was a little too smooth and Telly Savalas lacked real menace although he made a good villain. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

January 1st, 2015, 07:10 PM	#528
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,505 Times in 19,356 Posts	Whoo hooo! The countdown to the new James Bond film SPECTRE begins-expect hype and counter hype, speculation, conspiracy theories and no doubt there will be people who wonder if it will be Craig's last(he is contracted to do one more). I was more than interested to see that Idris Elba's name was mentioned as a possible future Bond. I also noticed this moron Rush Limburgh in America is against a black James Bond...well to shut him up, I think Elba would make a good Bond, regardless of what colour he is, it will silence morons like Limburgh and others-after all who knew that the US would have a Black President! Anything is possible. Watch this space. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

December 5th, 2014, 04:40 PM	#521
Staffsyeoman Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,268 Thanks: 34,170 Thanked 26,750 Times in 2,159 Posts	Ahh to be technical, Donald Pleasance wasn't cast as Blofeld originally. A Czech actor called Jan Werich was originally cast by Harry Saltzman, and actually filmed for a few days - but Lewis Gilbert and Cubby Broccoli thought he wasn't menacing enough. He was fired for looking more like a "poor benevolent Santa Claus". Oh, and Max von Sydow played him in "Never Say Never Again"..

December 6th, 2014, 10:45 PM	#527
Staffsyeoman Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,268 Thanks: 34,170 Thanked 26,750 Times in 2,159 Posts	OK.. disallowing Max von Sydow... I'm sure thst it was no accident that Woody Allen's costume as Jimmy Bond in the glorious mess that is the first Casino Royalr is the same kind of suit favvoured by Blofeld...

January 2nd, 2015, 12:20 PM	#529
Mr Bond Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, Paris, Istanbul, Nassau, Las Vegas, Kobe, Piz Gloria... Posts: 6,073 Thanks: 31,066 Thanked 224,853 Times in 6,218 Posts	My Doctor says NO ! It is not to be racist to say Bond is White. Shaft is black and can't be white. I like Bond, and I like Shaft ( with Roundtree ). It is not because whe are in 2015, that we can change and change everything. But, if they want to do the adventures of another 00, it will be fun. And I will be the first in the theater to see that ! __________________ Red wine with fish ! That should have told me something ! Mr Bond in From Russia With Love.

January 2nd, 2015, 08:25 PM	#530
vzok Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,179 Thanks: 3,696 Thanked 62,018 Times in 1,161 Posts	Wouldn't Idris Elba be a bit too old to be 007? Daniel Craig is signed up for the next movie (in 2018 presumably). So it might be 2021 before the next actor. He'd be the oldest actor to debut as Bond by then at nearly 50.

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