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Old 12-17-2009, 12:24 PM   #51
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There was a Michael Douglas film where he got made redundant, didn't tell anyone, and cracked-up under the strain and ran amok with gun etc.
As an American, I've always found the term "made redundant" quite brutal.

On to my own contribution to this thread: I've lived all over the US (in fact, I've lived all over the world), and the use of "pop", "soda", and "soda pop" is generally (though not completely) regional. But the phrases "carbonated beverage" or "soft drink" only occurs on restaurant menus and airplanes.

Or should I say aeroplane?

I've lived in Germany for fifteen years, so my vocabulary has become a bit Anglicized. I always say "trousers", for instance.

It doesn't make me a bad person.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:24 PM   #52
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Loath as i ever am to stifle healthy dialogue maybe we should all back away from going down the far right path and stick to the lame topic at hand . Otherwise this thread might get over heated and canned , or worse give other fellow members the mistaken idea that rules are being lessened in light of our lords birth.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:25 PM   #53
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Thanks a lot guys,

I understand what you mean.

Allow me one comprehension question.
You pointed out that there is a certain attitude of the people who still use the flag,
which is deeply-rooted in the minds of the Southerners.

Is it always or mostly accompanied by racism ?

Widower54 suggested that in his post and
aphex1973 mentioned the flag is being used by the KKK.

(btw. is the KKK still existent and active in the South ?)
Although there is a strong association with racism, I wouldn't paint everyone who displays the flag as a racist. As has been pointed out by brianwp, there are many citizen groups and individuals who utilize the flag for historical purposes. The problem being that it is, like it or not, a symbol strongly connected to slavery and therefore offensive to many. It is true, however, that the US civil war was about far more than simply slavery and so any discussion in this forum will be incomplete and omit much of the critical information necessary to fully understand the topic. Then again, I think the matter has been fairly well addressed and can be put to bed.

With regards to the KKK, yes it is still active but has been greatly reduced in influence and membership over the years. Personally, I consider them to be a complete embarassment to the human race and give them little consideration.

I think Greenskull has a good point and we should perhaps lighten the mood a bit.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:42 PM   #54
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As an American, I've always found the term "made redundant" quite brutal.
I'm a Brit and I also find it an unpleasant word, but redundancy is a nasty business. It has happened to me twice in my life and I am a so called highly qualified professional. It can happen to anyone in the present world. What do they say in America? I've heard ''downsized'' which isn't all that nice either.

It has happened to many millions now all over the world: it will happen to more. Its because the economy is in crisis. It isn't because the people on the receiving end are no good, (all VEF members on the dole reading this post, bear in mind that your predicament is no reflection on you as an individual), it's because there isn't enough paying work around to enable their employers to support them any longer. The economy is in bad shape and will be for a while. Good luck guys, whichever side of the pond you live on.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #55
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I'm a Brit and I also find it an unpleasant word, but redundancy is a nasty business. It has happened to me twice in my life and I am a so called highly qualified professional. It can happen to anyone in the present world. What do they say in America? I've heard ''downsized'' which isn't all that nice either.

It has happened to many millions now all over the world: it will happen to more. Its because the economy is in crisis. It isn't because the people on the receiving end are no good, (all VEF members on the dole reading this post, bear in mind that your predicament is no reflection on you as an individual), it's because there isn't enough paying work around to enable their employers to support them any longer. The economy is in bad shape and will be for a while. Good luck guys, whichever side of the pond you live on.
I was also made redundant many years ago and it was one of the best things that's happened to me! It's all a matter of one's own particular circumstances.I realised that I had been spending lots of time and effort making money I didn't need.I had time now to do all the important things in life.
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Please keep this thread going.

I think I was the one who first mentioned American sports. I did this because I was genuinely confused about the different lengths of the seasons in American sports. Thanks to the answers provided by a number of our American contributors I am now wiser. Thank you sirs.
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Flags gey commandeered by racist groups with political aims and these flags get stained and dishonoured by the association. Even the swastika symbol of the Nazis is also used by other organisations who had/have no Nazi affiliations or sympathies. For example it was the insignia of Finland's national air force when first founded in 1918: this was before the NSP existed. Both the Cross of St George and the Union Jack are flaunted in the UK by organistions like the BNP, Combat18 and similar of varying degrees of extreme right wing racist and fascist ideology: as a basically patriotic Brit, this mis-use of my national symbols is one of my very particular pet hates.

There may well be many folk with strong emotional attachment to the Confederate symbols who feel similar indignation when they are flown at KKK rallies and the like.
I'm not a Brit or English, but it annoys me that people get annoyed at the English flag St. George's day should be celebrated in England with pride. Just like we celebrate St. Patrick.
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:24 PM   #58
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I also thought the World Series was called that because it was originally sponsored by a newspaper called The World.
I, now wrongly, thought that the World Series was sponsored by a bakery called 'The World'.
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What do they say in America? I've heard ''downsized'' which isn't all that nice either.

People pretty much just say "fired" or "let-go" or "laid-off" regardless of the "official" reason (ie. your boss hates you or your company got bought out etc).

The terms "axed" and "canned" (also "shitcanned") are used a lot as well.

An employee will say something like "I got fired last week" but a boss will likely use manager-speak and say "...we had to let him go"
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There was a Michael Douglas film where he got made redundant, didn't tell anyone, and cracked-up under the strain and ran amok with gun etc. He got a can of Coke out of a fridge in a shop, and he too called it a can of soda. I thought it could have been something to do with not wanting to promote Coke, but in light of GS's question perhaps there's more?
It's a matter of local terms and local slang. In Philadelphia, where I was born and spent most of my younger years, a "Coke" was any kind of carbonated beverage regardless of the type. Go to another place in the States it's a "Soda" or most previlent in the mid-west it's a "pop".

I can use another analogy... In Philadelphia, a big sandwich is called a "Hoagie", in New York and Boston it's called a "Sub" or "Submarine", in the south it's a "Po' Boy" or "Poor Boy".

In the Uk, you guys have a "Lorry", a "Lift" and a "Flat", while here in the States it's a "Truck", "Elevator" &"Apartment".

Same thing.

Hope this helps.
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