Things Noticeable this week

[MaxJoker]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

But like his sham manifesto Jezzer wants to be all things to all men, he's promised lots and most of that money will all come out of extra borrowing, he's an idiot if he thinks just changing a few tax rules will bring in a massive windfall from the rich, it will definitely lead to more creative accounting

That`s what niggles me , the shock horror of him wanting to introduce plans that involve heavy borrowing. Least the loony is being more open about it. As opposed to the Cons who've been borrowing tens of billions a month like it`s going out of style. Which I wouldn't care about if I could look around and see improvements. Instead of chronic underfunding , food banks , empty shops and indigenous homeless etc etc etc.

I say we should borrow borrow borrow provided we use it to invest invest invest in every aspect of this long neglected country.
If the IMF or the World Bank start to threaten us like they did the Greeks, fuck em. We`ll invite them onto the white cliffs . Bring out a nuke then have the SAS polish it in the background during the discussions. They`ll soon shut up and get with the infinite credit program

I`m not kidding either.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

As for the tax windfall, the richest person I know says quite simply, he will return to his homes in Paris and Nice, and pay no UK tax, just French ones, and if they are too high, Monaco is a good bet!

Au Revoir. This line is always used when the prospect of raising taxes is involved. They don't mind help causing the mess but want to cry when you ask to help cleaning it up.

[bloke57]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Au Revoir. This line is always used when the prospect of raising taxes is involved. They don't mind help causing the mess but want to cry when you ask to help cleaning it up.

My reply to the "I'll leave the country" brigade is "Off you go then...but you don't take anything with you".

After all, they made their money within an economic climate we created. We educated the workforce, kept them well, allowed freedom of capital and commerce, gave a legal framework to allow you to prosper, provided infrastructure etc. etc.

In recognition of your efforts you can have £10,000 to set up elsewhere but please hand over the keys to your house and car while we freeze your assets.

Yes, yes! I admit I am being deliberately polemic and probably unfair but it does make a point. As John Donne said "No man is an island".

[haroldeye]

Now let me see - according to some on here we can get all the money we need to pay for everything by taxing the rich more and if they don't like it they can fck off. But when they've gone who will pay for all those bribes the politicians have promised us.

By the way I went to a school car park today, first time for years. It was in a very depressed former pit village, known even in the area for being as rough as. Given there wasn't a car older than three years in the car park, and there were more high end cars than normal ones, truly how much do primary school teachers get paid nowadays.

As to those who will leave - they made their fortunes in a climate they created, their taxes educated the workforce, and their investment in their talents is what pays for everything else in this country.

[bloke57]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

Now let me see - according to some on here we can get all the money we need to pay for everything by taxing the rich more and if they don't like it they can fck off. But when they've gone who will pay for all those bribes the politicians have promised us.

As to those who will leave - they made their fortunes in a climate they created, their taxes educated the workforce, and their investment in their talents is what pays for everything else in this country.

Of course you have a good rebuttal haroldeye - and I was being merely polemic.

But the thing I find is that those people actually very rarely do go. Noel Edmonds and Jim Davidson continue to make their valuable contribution to British life and culture.

[rupertramjet]

My friend made his money by pioneering a piece of software, which he developed in his own time, completely self taught, computers were still plugged into the TV via a tape deck then.

He bought money into Britain in bucket loads, has invested hugely in social projects, without reward, has salvaged ancient buildings for the nation and on a whim gave nearly £100k to rebuild a community football club, again for no reward, he does not even like football!

BTW Harold one of my ex Mrs R's was a primary teacher, she was on £38, 400.

Thats the kind of folk we would lose!

[SanteeFats]

Ya know if life were fair there would be no poor people.
I really don't see much wrong with a rich person who tries to hold on to as much as they can also goes for any other tier.
As to moving to a more favorable tax country, that is a personal decision. Maybe if the country went to a flat tax it would be more equitable to all. The rich would still pay a lot more than the lower levels.
How about a national sales tax so that users pay for what they use?
I am not to keen on most of my taxes going for purposes I don't like but it is the way it is.

[SanteeFats]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Au Revoir. This line is always used when the prospect of raising taxes is involved. They don't mind help causing the mess but want to cry when you ask to help cleaning it up.

Of course you don't have to respond to my question but where do you fall in the tax hierarchy.
Me i fall in the middle in the US.

[ultimatewarlord]

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

Tax the rich is a long standing Labour slogan. Charge them more! Actually they pay a hell of a lot more anyway! If you earn £100K you pay £34224 in tax. OR nearly 35%. If you earn £30K you pay £6,320 or 21%. If you earn £20k you pay £3320, or 17%. And if you earn £15k you pay £1320 or 8%.

The reason my friend would leave the country, is that not only will his taxes be higher, but he will be losing money from his capital because of another high tax. Foolish to stay? He is quite happy about paying about 40% of his income, but more than that and it becomes stupid, in addition he could claim that he does not live in the UK, as he has homes in France, but he does not.

I have never understood why someone who makes £150,000 a year should be expected to pay a higher rate of tax than someone like me who would earn £28,000 to £33,000 a year. You pay 20% tax and you'll put a damn sight more back into the economy than the average person.

[SanteeFats]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Well,I thank Him for His service but His attitude still stinks.

Ya know Mal I get that thanks crap all the time over here when a younger gen finds out I went to Viet Nam. To me it is trite and just something the younger gens say to make them selves feel good for not serving in the military or another protective service like police or firefighters.
Just saying.