Congratulations Are In Order

[dohupa]

Originally Posted by RyderKnightley

Why don't we just have one company in the world which makes and provides all goods and services. Cos that's the way it seems to be heading.

It will get there eventually. The minute money as we know it gets vanished and all is done electronically - that one company of the future will be able to maintain cash flow and thus all global economy.

This is no BS apocalyptic scenario some nick just posted at VEF; it's inevitable that it will happen some day.

[RjG57]

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

I don't give a toss who owns it if the shares rise in value - I don't eat the stuff they make anyway - it's money that matters. .

And that my friend is the problem with the world!

[MaxJoker]

Pretty soon they`ll only be two giant multi national conglomerates left , neither of whom will want to sell anything else to the other. At which point they make a deal to fix prices , or go to war .

As in a proper full out war .

Either way us consumers will get screwed .

Ah the more things change the more they etc etc

[MrKinkade]

Now let me see shades of the Rover fiasco.. umm smells like the big winners are you've guessed it THE BANKERS/SHAREHOLDERS and that TWAT Roger the dodger Carr chairman of Cadbury. M&A advisors are UBS, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley says it ALL

[spitalhouse]

The real problem as I see it with the sale of Cadbury's to overseas owners is that the UK's already weak manufacturing base has been undermined even further. We are a country whose economy is too reliant on the services sector - financial services in particular.

We don't make anything in Britain anymore which, as recent events have shown, makes us particularly vulnerable during times of global recession. Countries such as France, Germany and the US have fared much better during the current economic climate because (in part, at least) they still have a strong manufacturing base.

Regards.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by spitalhouse

The real problem as I see it with the sale of Cadbury's to overseas owners is that the UK's already weak manufacturing base has been undermined even further. We are a country whose economy is too reliant on the services sector - financial services in particular.

We don't make anything in Britain anymore which, as recent events have shown, makes us particularly vulnerable during times of global recession. Countries such as France, Germany and the US have fared much better during the current economic climate because (in part, at least) they still have a strong manufacturing base.

Regards.

Cyclical recession goes with manufacturing as a hand goes in a glove, unfortunately. In addition, there is a continuing structural trend towards CADCAM and automation which means that manufacturing will, like agriculture before it, produce more and employ fewer people to do it. For many years the consensus view of our national move over to a service and knowledge-based economy was that it insulated Great Britain plc from the never-ending cycle of boom and bust which has bedevilled us since the industrial revolution. But a knowledge-based economy can be wrecked by the ''knowledgeable people'' where there are no knowledgeable regulators with the necessary muscle to keep the house in order. This last recession has been a collapse of confidence in finance and services and this is why Britain is taking such a hit.

I would be sorry to see a reversion to the degree of dependence on manufacturing we had in 1979. We could manufacture more than we did then on the back of a much smaller workforce. Manufacturing should be a bigger component in our economy. By being so dependent on financial services, we put all our chips on red and it came up black. But a balanced economy is what we need now. Selling off Cadburys isn't going to help us get there.

[Welderman]

Another Kick In The Teeth For Birmingham/West Midlands..
More Job Losses Inevitable...
Nice One Brown And Chums..
Hope You Choke On Your Creme Egg...

[RyderKnightley]

Originally Posted by spitalhouse

The real problem as I see it with the sale of Cadbury's to overseas owners is that the UK's already weak manufacturing base has been undermined even further. We are a country whose economy is too reliant on the services sector - financial services in particular.

We don't make anything in Britain anymore which, as recent events have shown, makes us particularly vulnerable during times of global recession. Countries such as France, Germany and the US have fared much better during the current economic climate because (in part, at least) they still have a strong manufacturing base.

Regards.

Thank you Baroness Thatcher.

[handcircle]

Originally Posted by welderman

Another Kick In The Teeth For Birmingham/West Midlands..
More Job Losses Inevitable...
Nice One Brown And Chums..
Hope You Choke On Your Creme Egg...

Lets not get political here but, if for 1 second you beleive the greedy bastard shareholders who make loads out of this are Labour supporters then i think you are very naive.

[sydney1]

Originally Posted by eelcat

Exactly the same thing happened, the minute Nestle bought Rowntrees in York. Next thing they amalgamated all clerical staff, down to Croyden & wiped out around 2,000 jobs at a stroke.

Just heard on the news before that cadbury workers here aren't too certain about their future as well.[/QUOTE]

Speaking as someone who lives not too far from Nestleland, well about a mile and who worked there from time to time in the eighties when it was Rowntree's and many of my friends who were employed there, I am very apprehensive about Cadbury's.

York at one time was nicknamed 'Chocolate city' not so long ago. Rowntree's were Quaker as were Terry's ( This company was bought by Krapft and is now shut pending planning applications for more sh*tty flats.)

Rowntree's was an exemplary company with few strikes to it's name even in the seventies and eighties, because they didn't try and shaft the workforce and did try to run a decent company and in doing so the wages were excellent as were the working conditions and benefits.

If you worked for Rowntree's all your life you were entitled to free meals every day at the works canteen ( Very good food having been there more than once) Also available was subsidised comodities that were made by Rowntree's for employee's and pensioner's who'd worked for Rowntrees'.

Add to that a library and a swimming pool and if you were lucky to be taken on as an apprentise (Those jobs were like rocking-horse sh*t, very hard to get.) You could go all the way, right through college and be paid to go to university ( As one of my mates was offered)

As I think more about Rowntree's and the amount of people that worked there over the years, it runs into hundreds if not more and not just directly, indirectly you're talking thousands.

But don't worry Gordon, I'm sure the banking industry and 'the city' will pay our way out of this sh*tty self-made mess.