Militant Islamists

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by sea-man

isil were invented by NATO in the Jordanian desert and armed with NATO, israeli and Bulgarian weaponry. So what if the mainstream media, which has been ignored for decades do not broadcast the truth. isil has been flown in NATO helicopters and aircraft. But a few days ago a pregnant Palestinian women, her 14 month old baby and a teenager were slaughtered for simply being Arabs (Semites), this is far worse than anything in Europe in the 1940's. A orthodox Jewish man, Giwer had a website with pictures of melted and shredded Arabs murdered for simply being Semites - to show the world what is really taking place. There is no comparison on the planet. When one side has all the most advance weaponry, admits it tests weapons on a un-armed civilian population and boasts that it will murder more then there will be a time when the world will take out these settler terrorists and get their countries back.

My great uncle Fred shot President Kennedy as well. He is a freemason and works for George Soros, who gives him a company helicopter for work purposes.

But he's the nicest man you could ever hope to meet, and very misunderstood.

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by sea-man

So what were you doing in some one elses country? It is no different to anyone whose lands being invaded. Who defines "peace and brotherhood"?

Defending it from an invasion from the North,Much the same as the US was doing in France in 1944.

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by seany65

I'm not too sure that saying people who burn people alive, behead them or throw them off the tops of towers etc. as a matter of course during the day and then doing it to someone else tomorrow are scum and their supporters are scum, is quite the same as actually burning people alive, beheading them or throwing them off the tops of towers.

To simplify:

To call someone names (and therefore dehumanise them, according to some people here) is not the same as burning people alive, beheading them or throwing them off the tops of towers and so it cannot be lowering ourselves to their level.


Posted by sea-man:

"Or much worse: changing borders, exterminating entire cultures and identities to serve the purpose of ethnic cleansing = genocide. Raping entire families, especially minors as proven by The New Yorker magazine, etc. What is the norms now is far worse and older than anything that took place in the West.

Yet, the mainstream media refuse to broadcast the facts at the ground. Why? Simply because it would have (past tense noted and emphasized) show the victims of torture, mass murder (genocide) and rape (a favourite of the norms now) as a human being.
Ultimately, outside the West, the world does not accept anything that took place in Europe circa 70 years ago. Because it is a two way process, real history is what is being censored and the outside world could not care less if the civilians of the country in the West do not like it. This is equality.
When pregnant women and babies (minors) are being shredded by tank shells or air attacks, no wonder they want revenge. Karma is strong."

If I understand who you mean by "they" in the last sentence, you mean radical Islamists feeling justified in attacking western countries.

They may feel justified in attacking the west because of the western bombings of Muslim countries, but the truth is, there were Islamic militants in the time of Mohammed. From what I understand, he told his followers to go out and conquer and steal and kill and enslave. This was the basis for Islam's quick expansion through the middle east into North Africa, Spain, Portugal, their attempt to invade France, their spread east into India through Iraq and Iran and Afghanistan, their spread north-east and the north into the Byzantine empire and some of the countries of east Europe and attempts at expansion 1,000 years after Mohamed died.

I think there would still be Islamist militants even if our governments had never done all the sh*t that they did.

You should really stop watching Fox "news" or its twin the BBC.
Attacking entire continents, then calling it "self defense" is the norms.
The entire planet is watching, when the shit hits the fan, when the "our boys" daily mail filth who justifies everything that is wrong outside the West will bought down in a nuclear flash. Now then look up a book: they dare to speak out. Get some real history and facts, not the pro genocide, kiddie fiddling protecting "worldwide irrelevant) "West" mainstream media.

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Defending it from an invasion from the North,Much the same as the US was doing in France in 1944.

Look up GWB grand father https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

My great uncle Fred shot President Kennedy as well. He is a freemason and works for George Soros, who gives him a company helicopter for work purposes.

But he's the nicest man you could ever hope to meet, and very misunderstood.

Really??? It is common knowledge proven with facts throughout the planet. "Not in the public good" the BBC way of censoring (as always) the facts.

[SanteeFats]

Okay Sea-man I am not responding to your trolling posts from here on out. If you are not trolling then IMO you are showing a total lack of understanding of how the world works.

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

Okay Sea-man I am not responding to your trolling posts from here on out. If you are not trolling then IMO you are showing a total lack of understanding of how the world works.

I have a pretty good understanding of how the world works. I get my information from reliable, (99% American) sources. I am not trolling, as a Arabic Jew whose background and people (Arabs) is being exterminated with things that has never been seen in the West ever.
I have posted Tony Greensteins blog as proof of how Iraqi Jews were helping and defending Asians during London protests against genocidal terrorism.
That is not trolling. We are all here to discuss facts, not some restrictive version of history.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by sea-man

I have a pretty good understanding of how the world works. I get my information from reliable, (99% American) sources. I am not trolling, as a Arabic Jew whose background and people (Arabs) is being exterminated with things that has never been seen in the West ever.
I have posted Tony Greensteins blog as proof of how Iraqi Jews were helping and defending Asians during London protests against genocidal terrorism.
That is not trolling. We are all here to discuss facts, not some restrictive version of history.

Yes, you are trolling.

These opinions and false assertions which you call "facts" are intended to annoy and provoke bad karma among the posters on this thread. For example your contention that ISIS was created by NATO is untrue in ways I find difficult to express politely. It is a statement which does not deserve to be taken seriously and if I took it seriously I would have to be extremely angry with you for the insult to my country and its allies - and I can't be bothered because you aren't worth it.

Just as Santeefats has already told you, I tell you now that I have nothing more to say to you. I tell you further that if you post on this thread again to make trouble, I will remove your post and you will hear from me in a private message and you wont enjoy reading what I will say to you privately.

[sea-man]

I disagree. Syrians have proof to back up what I have said as well as Americans. Abuse is not a good way to say anything.
This will probably be the last time I will post on this topic. I am not causing any trouble, but relying on the Western mainstream media, is not the only way to look at this topic.

[seany65]

sea-man:

I'm not supporting the sh*t done by "our side", and I know that al Qaeda was set up by the west to fight the Russians in Afghanistan and that ISIS was basically set up by the west to get rid of Assad in Syria. I also know that ISIS went too far in the sh*t they did.

I know that their recruits from the rest of the world partly joined because of the sh*t done in the middle east by western Govts.

I think that many of those recruits seem to have taken very little persuading to join, and many of them seem to like the sh*t done by ISIS, and are quite happy to do it themselves.

I also think that Islamic Militancy has always existed and would exist today even without the sh*t done by western Govts., though probably not to the same scale.