Uh oh...trouble...

**DARPA** · February 15th, 2021, 10:41 PM

Scanner was working fine and then suddenly this showed up. Rebooted the thing and tried another scan and it was still there. It wasn't consistent in its prominence each time I rescanned....some scans were worse than others. Tried DPI changes and that didn't help. Shut it down and waited an hour and then fired it back up and it was gone on the first scan I tried.

Does this mean what I think it means?

**DARPA** · February 18th, 2021, 08:52 PM

So, uh...who makes a decent scanner these days? My current (and possibly not long for this world) scanner is an HP Scanjet G4010 which I must have bought 11 years ago.

It wasn't much but it did the job. I would want something similar as a replacement (though I don't need the slide scanning ability now that I've done all the slides I needed scanning).

I'm not looking to spend a ton of money for a new scanner. I use the current one a fraction of the amount I used the scanner I did 4,500+ scans over 3.5 years when I was on a scanning tear and going through Swedish Erotica issues like a bowling ball mowing down pins. Actually, I'm a little disappointed this scanner is faltering considering how comparatively little scanning was done with it (though I did hold on to it more than twice as long as the previous one).

The only thing I figure that is probably a non-starter is a side opening scanner. That would be a problem for scanning mags. particularly hard spine mags, which benefit more from top opening scan beds.

Any recommendations?

**Jism Jim** · February 20th, 2021, 06:43 PM

Sorry, can't help you much with this. I buy my scanners second-hand at a thrift store.
But out of the brands that I have tried I prefer Canon and Epson.

**DARPA** · February 21st, 2021, 05:15 PM

Thanks anyways. I'd feel a little squirrely perusing the second hand market for anything that's mechanical in nature...unless I had the cash to burn (which I don't).

I had enough of a headache last year getting a used VCR so that I could digitize the VHS tapes I was buying. I burned through three of them in a few months before landing one that hasn't failed on me (yet). VHS players are a bit of different scenario though...you don't have much choice but to pursue the second hand market. The good news is nobody wants old VHS tapes generally so I can get those very hard to find out of print porn movies with little to no competition and get them cheap(ish). I got one I'm about to nail today and I'll probably be the only bidder.

It seems like the scanner market has moved away from what it used to be like to something different. The flat bed open from the rear model is still the best type IMO but so many have gone into the paper feed lid model that opens from the side. Yuck...

**sammler** · February 26th, 2021, 05:36 AM

Epson Perfection V600 is my better scanner. But I like my Canoscan LIDE 210 as a workhorse scanner. Small, light, only needs a USB cable and reasonably fast at the resolutions suitable for magazine scanning. Calibrated by scanning an IT87 target, both give pretty good color accuracy. The Epson is still a bit better, but it's bigger and slower too. And I agree with Jism Jim. There are tons of used scanners available for little money. Chances are they haven't seen a lot of use either. Lastly I'm a big fan of Vuescan as a scanning app.

**Hugh Jampton** · February 26th, 2021, 08:32 AM

Cheap, slim, so can be hidden away, decent quality.

Canon's Cano/scan and IJ Scan Utility are about as intuitive and user friendly as particle physics but Windows' inbuilt software works fine.

**EvilElf13** · April 13th, 2021, 03:19 PM

I'll be trying out an Epson V600 this week as a candidate to replace my V30, which was working great but has become a bit glitchy lately. With the V600 I can also scan/develop negatives and film frames due to the insane DPI it can accomplish and the ICE software. I have tons of old negatives that would be great to re-develop. However, if it's not substantially better image quality I may switch it out for the V39...but I'll lose the film and negative scanning ability...230 bucks vs. 99 bucks.

I'd really like to ditch the flatbed scanners entirely for magazine scans and get something like a high-end sheet fed Brother or Epson that accepts ledger size (11x17) for quick workflow. However, it really pains me to disassemble the magazines and I'd be paranoid about a bad jam damaging a page. That's a dilemma since I'd like to get these old magazines archived before the passage of eons.

I think really, though, any decent scanner (with good settings) plus a bit of light work in Photoshop can make any scan approach remaster quality.

**seany65** · April 13th, 2021, 11:45 PM

Slightly off topic, sort of, but is there any point to getting an IT87 target if the monitor hasn't been calibrated to match the printer, as someone may wish to print out a larger version of a single pic from a spread of several pics on a page?

Also, does an IT87 target prevent the need to faff about in a photo editing program if the pic/page that is to be scanned has an odd colour-caste?

**Viklas** · April 14th, 2021, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARPA

Scanner was working fine and then suddenly this showed up. Rebooted the thing and tried another scan and it was still there. It wasn't consistent in its prominence each time I rescanned....some scans were worse than others. Tried DPI changes and that didn't help. Shut it down and waited an hour and then fired it back up and it was gone on the first scan I tried.

Does this mean what I think it means?

Is this sheet-fed? Try cleaning the scan window with a damp cloth. I get streaks when scanning magazines using the feeder, as little bits of paper (e.g. from staple holes) flake off and sit over the scanning head, which comes out looking like your example.

February 15th, 2021, 10:41 PM	#1
DARPA Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trapped inside a scanner Posts: 3,503 Thanks: 4,331 Thanked 61,998 Times in 3,413 Posts	Uh oh...trouble... Scanner was working fine and then suddenly this showed up. Rebooted the thing and tried another scan and it was still there. It wasn't consistent in its prominence each time I rescanned....some scans were worse than others. Tried DPI changes and that didn't help. Shut it down and waited an hour and then fired it back up and it was gone on the first scan I tried. Does this mean what I think it means?

February 18th, 2021, 08:52 PM	#2
DARPA Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trapped inside a scanner Posts: 3,503 Thanks: 4,331 Thanked 61,998 Times in 3,413 Posts	So, uh...who makes a decent scanner these days? My current (and possibly not long for this world) scanner is an HP Scanjet G4010 which I must have bought 11 years ago. It wasn't much but it did the job. I would want something similar as a replacement (though I don't need the slide scanning ability now that I've done all the slides I needed scanning). I'm not looking to spend a ton of money for a new scanner. I use the current one a fraction of the amount I used the scanner I did 4,500+ scans over 3.5 years when I was on a scanning tear and going through Swedish Erotica issues like a bowling ball mowing down pins. Actually, I'm a little disappointed this scanner is faltering considering how comparatively little scanning was done with it (though I did hold on to it more than twice as long as the previous one). The only thing I figure that is probably a non-starter is a side opening scanner. That would be a problem for scanning mags. particularly hard spine mags, which benefit more from top opening scan beds. Any recommendations? Last edited by DARPA; February 18th, 2021 at 09:20 PM..

February 20th, 2021, 06:43 PM	#3
Jism Jim Sourcer of Smut Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,829 Thanks: 83,607 Thanked 341,637 Times in 8,422 Posts	Sorry, can't help you much with this. I buy my scanners second-hand at a thrift store. But out of the brands that I have tried I prefer Canon and Epson. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Feel free to post my scans to the relevant model threads, but do give credit

February 26th, 2021, 05:36 AM	#5
sammler hoarder of smut Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north by northwest Posts: 469 Thanks: 7,155 Thanked 21,973 Times in 468 Posts	Epson Perfection V600 is my better scanner. But I like my Canoscan LIDE 210 as a workhorse scanner. Small, light, only needs a USB cable and reasonably fast at the resolutions suitable for magazine scanning. Calibrated by scanning an IT87 target, both give pretty good color accuracy. The Epson is still a bit better, but it's bigger and slower too. And I agree with Jism Jim. There are tons of used scanners available for little money. Chances are they haven't seen a lot of use either. Lastly I'm a big fan of Vuescan as a scanning app. __________________ Unless stated otherwise all scans and rips are my own.

February 26th, 2021, 08:32 AM	#6
Hugh Jampton Vintage Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 793 Thanks: 5,024 Thanked 26,943 Times in 751 Posts	Another Canon LIDE vote Cheap, slim, so can be hidden away, decent quality. Canon's Cano/scan and IJ Scan Utility are about as intuitive and user friendly as particle physics but Windows' inbuilt software works fine.

February 21st, 2021, 05:15 PM	#4
DARPA Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trapped inside a scanner Posts: 3,503 Thanks: 4,331 Thanked 61,998 Times in 3,413 Posts	Thanks anyways. I'd feel a little squirrely perusing the second hand market for anything that's mechanical in nature...unless I had the cash to burn (which I don't). I had enough of a headache last year getting a used VCR so that I could digitize the VHS tapes I was buying. I burned through three of them in a few months before landing one that hasn't failed on me (yet). VHS players are a bit of different scenario though...you don't have much choice but to pursue the second hand market. The good news is nobody wants old VHS tapes generally so I can get those very hard to find out of print porn movies with little to no competition and get them cheap(ish). I got one I'm about to nail today and I'll probably be the only bidder. It seems like the scanner market has moved away from what it used to be like to something different. The flat bed open from the rear model is still the best type IMO but so many have gone into the paper feed lid model that opens from the side. Yuck...

April 13th, 2021, 03:19 PM	#7
EvilElf13 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 352 Thanks: 4,285 Thanked 16,976 Times in 352 Posts	I'll be trying out an Epson V600 this week as a candidate to replace my V30, which was working great but has become a bit glitchy lately. With the V600 I can also scan/develop negatives and film frames due to the insane DPI it can accomplish and the ICE software. I have tons of old negatives that would be great to re-develop. However, if it's not substantially better image quality I may switch it out for the V39...but I'll lose the film and negative scanning ability...230 bucks vs. 99 bucks. I'd really like to ditch the flatbed scanners entirely for magazine scans and get something like a high-end sheet fed Brother or Epson that accepts ledger size (11x17) for quick workflow. However, it really pains me to disassemble the magazines and I'd be paranoid about a bad jam damaging a page. That's a dilemma since I'd like to get these old magazines archived before the passage of eons. I think really, though, any decent scanner (with good settings) plus a bit of light work in Photoshop can make any scan approach remaster quality.

April 13th, 2021, 11:45 PM	#8
seany65 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,651 Thanks: 80,415 Thanked 32,730 Times in 3,527 Posts	Slightly off topic, sort of, but is there any point to getting an IT87 target if the monitor hasn't been calibrated to match the printer, as someone may wish to print out a larger version of a single pic from a spread of several pics on a page? Also, does an IT87 target prevent the need to faff about in a photo editing program if the pic/page that is to be scanned has an odd colour-caste? __________________ <-- That's Emer Kenny and I want to be stuck in her front bottom. Quote from electrofreak : I'd rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned.

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