Hef's Vaults - Page 5

**brk549** · October 21st, 2018, 08:09 PM

I think I remember hearing somewhere that when Flint was coming out with all the stories when he was working if you can call it that to get Bill Clinton elected and also getting revenge for the Monica deal that a lot of that info came from Hef and PB.Flint didn't have the contacts to get that info on his own because most everyone despised him.

**cylnz** · October 21st, 2018, 11:19 PM

the names are interchangeable, but the stories are probably waaay more tame than the reality.

It isnt Hef's collection I want to see, it's Harry Langdon's long term film and negative stores I really want to see.

Just the Raquel Welch outtakes and sheets alone would be worth a lifetime sentence.

(ok, I lie, I would LOVE to see Hefner's collection of photoshoot outtakes)

flyingtiger · October 28th, 2018, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jesegr

There's was supposedly a tape that existed of Jane fucking Ted Turner in the ass with a strap on while he fucked another woman.

Hustler had this. There is a story behind this. Hustler receives many films with celebrities bonking. A lot of these are from disgruntle employees who deserve to be fired. A editor from hustler explained they want to be selective. One example he gave was one of a star of a TV show that was screwing his wife in the backyard. He passed on that because the actor seemed to be a nice guy and did not know his neighbor was filming. He had the Turner tape and was about to pass because it seemed like a private matter. Then Turner turned to the camera and said "Are you getting this?" That made it a public matter, so they publish it.

**jesegr** · October 28th, 2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingtiger

Hustler had this. There is a story behind this. Hustler receives many films with celebrities bonking. A lot of these are from disgruntle employees who deserve to be fired. A editor from hustler explained they want to be selective. One example he gave was one of a star of a TV show that was screwing his wife in the backyard. He passed on that because the actor seemed to be a nice guy and did not know his neighbor was filming. He had the Turner tape and was about to pass because it seemed like a private matter. Then Turner turned to the camera and said "Are you getting this?" That made it a public matter, so they publish it.

Yeah, I read the story of the Turner sex tape in the book Prisoner of X by Allan MacDonell. He says that Hustler was offered a Trump/Maples sex tape, but when they viewed it, it turned out to be Ted and Jane doing another woman, who he describes as a tan brunette. She as reclined on a sofa, Ted starts banging her and Jane starts banging him from behind with a strap on. At one point, Ted turns and says to the camera, 'Are you getting this?', then the camera zooms in to capture his ass being pounded by Jane. And at one point, the strap on comes out, and Ted angrily says 'Dammit Jane!'

According to the book, Flynt supposedly low balled the seller and never got the tape. But Ted later called Flynt looking for the number of the guy selling it. Book also says a second batch of Turner tapes showed up that preceded his marriage to Jane. Tapes of him with a bunch of different women that looked to have been filmed in the early 80s. These Flynt did sell back to Ted, according to the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Prisoner-Year...8-2&ref=sr_1_2

flyingtiger · October 30th, 2018, 02:36 AM

That is where I got my info. I forgot the details, thanks for filling us in on this.

Boomer · October 30th, 2018, 08:12 AM

Strange that none of those have leaked? Maybe Ted destroyed them...Of course, the idea of any sort of Janey sex tape works for me!! Going through what are now a series of pretty well sourced biographies about her, there seem to be a LOT of Jane sex stories out there- she was no shrinking violet, that is for sure... ;->

ShutUpLutz! · November 12th, 2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer

Strange that none of those have leaked? Maybe Ted destroyed them...Of course, the idea of any sort of Janey sex tape works for me!! Going through what are now a series of pretty well sourced biographies about her, there seem to be a LOT of Jane sex stories out there- she was no shrinking violet, that is for sure... ;->

Well she has mentioned in a couple of interviews in the past few years that her favorite position is doggy style because of her arthritis.

wockawocka1970 · November 12th, 2018, 06:04 PM

Actually, I think the last thing Fonda said was something on the order of "operations are closed for good".

The story doesn't bear up to almost any logic or scrutiny. First of all, it's written by a guy that most people think is a big fake, and has even been debunked - by Salon or Slate, I can't remember.

Second, the mansion is described in all accounts by just about anyone who was there in the last several years as being in disrepair. It boggles the mind to think that a mansion that couldn't even have new carpets and paint is going to have a state-of-the-art vault at the bottom of it.

Relatedly, Hef was in serious financial straits the past few years. He had already sold the place to some rich Greek guy who agreed to then rent back the place to him until he died. Do you think that rich guy didn't check out every cubic inch of the mansion as part of his due diligence? And a high-tech security system as described, is not only very rare in commercial environments, it's almost unheard of in residential ones. Plus, from experience, I can tell you it would be very costly and problematic to maintain.

Then, there is the issue of the quality of the videos, etc. It's hard to get a quality video, especially back in the old days, with typical/available lighting. So most surreptitious videos would be anybody's guess really as to who was in them. Many of the celebs described would not have been okay with someone walking around with a camera taking any of these shots. It would have resulted in lawsuits and the shenanigans discovered would have spread like wildfire through Hollywood.

**brk549** · November 12th, 2018, 07:22 PM

I agree with wock to a point.A lot of people that might have been in those tapes would do anything other than piss Hef off,he would have them in the palm of his hands.You would assume the vault would have been built back in PB's heyday when they had plenty of money.Who ever owns it now could be raking in the money to keep the vault closed,who knows.I don't think there's a lot of people that knows if the vault even exist but I'll bet there's a lot of people paying money just in case it does.I'm assuming a lot of these tapes were made back in PB's heyday when there was something going on just about every night and they would have had plenty of oppertunity's to get plenty of tapes so most of those people are getting up in years and after their gone there will be no reason to hide them.

**Witness** · November 24th, 2018, 03:59 PM

Apparently, Hugh cleaned out his vault years ago, dumping a large amount of films and videos in a concrete lined casket that was deep sixed in the ocean:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ssed-away.html

Any Bob Ballard types around here who want to search the depths for this treasure trove?

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October 21st, 2018, 08:09 PM	#41
brk549 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 20,220 Thanked 7,178 Times in 1,046 Posts	I think I remember hearing somewhere that when Flint was coming out with all the stories when he was working if you can call it that to get Bill Clinton elected and also getting revenge for the Monica deal that a lot of that info came from Hef and PB.Flint didn't have the contacts to get that info on his own because most everyone despised him.

October 30th, 2018, 02:36 AM	#45
flyingtiger Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 82 Thanks: 771 Thanked 495 Times in 72 Posts	That is where I got my info. I forgot the details, thanks for filling us in on this.

October 30th, 2018, 08:12 AM	#46
Boomer Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 85 Thanks: 2,145 Thanked 436 Times in 64 Posts	Strange that none of those have leaked? Maybe Ted destroyed them...Of course, the idea of any sort of Janey sex tape works for me!! Going through what are now a series of pretty well sourced biographies about her, there seem to be a LOT of Jane sex stories out there- she was no shrinking violet, that is for sure... ;->

November 12th, 2018, 06:04 PM	#48
wockawocka1970 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50 Thanks: 448 Thanked 284 Times in 44 Posts	Actually, I think the last thing Fonda said was something on the order of "operations are closed for good". The story doesn't bear up to almost any logic or scrutiny. First of all, it's written by a guy that most people think is a big fake, and has even been debunked - by Salon or Slate, I can't remember. Second, the mansion is described in all accounts by just about anyone who was there in the last several years as being in disrepair. It boggles the mind to think that a mansion that couldn't even have new carpets and paint is going to have a state-of-the-art vault at the bottom of it. Relatedly, Hef was in serious financial straits the past few years. He had already sold the place to some rich Greek guy who agreed to then rent back the place to him until he died. Do you think that rich guy didn't check out every cubic inch of the mansion as part of his due diligence? And a high-tech security system as described, is not only very rare in commercial environments, it's almost unheard of in residential ones. Plus, from experience, I can tell you it would be very costly and problematic to maintain. Then, there is the issue of the quality of the videos, etc. It's hard to get a quality video, especially back in the old days, with typical/available lighting. So most surreptitious videos would be anybody's guess really as to who was in them. Many of the celebs described would not have been okay with someone walking around with a camera taking any of these shots. It would have resulted in lawsuits and the shenanigans discovered would have spread like wildfire through Hollywood.

November 12th, 2018, 07:22 PM	#49
brk549 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 20,220 Thanked 7,178 Times in 1,046 Posts	I agree with wock to a point.A lot of people that might have been in those tapes would do anything other than piss Hef off,he would have them in the palm of his hands.You would assume the vault would have been built back in PB's heyday when they had plenty of money.Who ever owns it now could be raking in the money to keep the vault closed,who knows.I don't think there's a lot of people that knows if the vault even exist but I'll bet there's a lot of people paying money just in case it does.I'm assuming a lot of these tapes were made back in PB's heyday when there was something going on just about every night and they would have had plenty of oppertunity's to get plenty of tapes so most of those people are getting up in years and after their gone there will be no reason to hide them.

November 24th, 2018, 03:59 PM	#50
Witness Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,262 Thanks: 16,791 Thanked 36,051 Times in 3,276 Posts	Apparently, Hugh cleaned out his vault years ago, dumping a large amount of films and videos in a concrete lined casket that was deep sixed in the ocean: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ssed-away.html Any Bob Ballard types around here who want to search the depths for this treasure trove?