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Exploiting happens everywhere. Shauna didn't all of a sudden forget what taking off one's clothes meant. Look at the interview, look at her porn. She obviously was not afraid to draw some limitations (she clearly states that she will not do anal, and she also says she is not banging the dude just because he thinks he should...etc.). When she didn't want to do it, she quit, and had Jake not cut her loose using drugs for leverage, she might still have lived. Drugs addiction is a powerful thing. Quote:
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A loving mother can be not proud of what her daughter accomplishes, but still support who she is. When all she could talk about after her daughter died is how she was trying to give her organs away, I hear plenty of complete idiocy more than any kind of affection. What do you think the impact would be of a daughter coming home and trying to give a picture to her mother only to have her mother basically say..fuck you, don't want that trash? Her mother even said that she was always "fussing about her looks", and that something wasn't right. So let me get this straight, your daughter doesn't look right so hey lets shit all over what she is trying to give to you because hey she wasn't feeling bad enough right? Quote:
Look at the documentary. Her father flat out says that he never talked to her about her suicide attempt before she moved. Her mother still was trying to say it was attention. Hell her mother still thinks she was murdered. The answer is right there in her face (and the tape recordings) and yet she denies denies denies. Let me make an example. Lets say you have someone is trying to leave you, the worst thing, and I mean the worst thing is telling that person...no stay, no you are wrong for feeling that way.... All you do is make it even more clear that you never respected their decisions. Even her friends said that her parents coming out and telling her how wrong her decisions were just made it worse. Quote:
What her mom seemed to care more about was the fact that she was embarrassed rather then the fact that maybe just maybe there was more to this story and it didn't start in California (well actually maybe it did since she was born in that state right?). Money is not everything and if that is even part of the sentence for burying a child then the focus is clearly misdirected. If you look at her mother, she actually blames drugs for why she got into movies when all those around her said that the drugs happened AFTER the movies. Her mother seemed so cold and clueless, I cannot see how anyone could speak of that circumstance and still not show any damn emotion. But on the flip side, how do you know Bobby Hollander doesn't feel guilt? How do you know Jake Ehrlich felt nothing (he sure showed remorse on the documentary at least at that time)? They all had their problems and I don't see any of them living this high and mighty life. Why is it any of their responsibilities to pay for a grown woman's suicide choice? Why is it the industry's responsibility? Quote:
Listen to how the dad was. He clearly states...well the others turned out ok so I don't understand why she turned out that way. Never heard of an individual huh? Never heard of one being a rebel? In Shauna's own words she was missing something? Getting back, I see a lot of meaning in her life, and this story remains one of the biggest ones in the porn industry. While it has been told time and time again, the key is that it should not be for nothing. Shauna's involvement in porn I don't look at as a net positive or negative. I look at it as simply what she achieved. Why does it have to be anything more? If a painter ends up shooting themselves after prostituting their work time and time again does that mean I shouldn't admire the artwork because I think they were in pain while they did it? While I don't buy for a single solitary second that every moment was painful, I think it is completely besides the point. What Shauna was as a human being should be celebrated (if one wants to), and it is no different then in other person that checked out early for various reasons. I don't see the porn industry at fault, and they profit from her because they had contracts signed that distributed her images, and I am sure she was well aware of what she did having an impact on her sales later. That is the net positive if I were to really truly think of any. I see no point in it all being for nothing. She was a beautiful woman that is fun to watch have sex. Nothing wrong with that. The fact that she died early and there is some aspects of her life I can identify with, well that is a little something more. In closing, I know I have seemed very harsh on her parents, and believe me with all my criticism, I still don't pretend to truly know what they went through. What I do know is that her friends still seem close and perhaps they are that way because of the tragedy. I am sure the parents are paying for this the rest of their life, and the black hole in lots of people lives are probably not ever going to be filled in the wake of her death. Believe it or not, even though I never knew her, I feel pretty bad about it too. It had an effect on me, and normal or not, it is the truth. |
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that makes sense. theres more natural blondes in Minnesota than anywhere else.
I love golden bush, but its so rare. Especially now that most girls wax and laser their junk smooth. I like Shauna Grant, and this thread has been very interesting for me. Thanks to everyone. |
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