Want to buy Movie Editing Software.

**Retro_XXX_Buff** · March 16th, 2013, 12:34 AM

I just got a new Dell 660s with I5 processor. Don't know alot of the tech stuff but told the salesman at Dell I would be doing video editing at a hobbyist level.

I went out and paid $ 149 for that Adobe Photoshop Elements 11 & Adobe Premiere Elements 11 and disappointed it's not letting me save my AVI's at the 640 x 480 setting and mostly getting no audio, only repeated blips of audio followed by silence.

Any other suggestions as far as ease of use for novice without having to figure out addding extra codecs type of software ? I understand I'm leaving out a lot of info on my PC - just interested in hearing you guys experience with other programs. I know there's no guarantees any one system will work.

Looking at Pinnacle, Corel, or Sony Vegas. Any input is appreciated.

**TCO95** · March 16th, 2013, 06:03 AM

Virtualdub is a free video editing program. It is extensible via plugins and filters and has an active support community. I use it as my default video editor.

http://www.virtualdub.org/

**Retro_XXX_Buff** · March 16th, 2013, 07:25 AM

TCO95,
Thanks for freeware suggestion, I'll try it for basic clipping. I had bought that Adobe because it had a lot of effects / editing options vs. the Windows Movie Maker I had been using.

I was reading about things like a green screen feature and possible removing of subtitle type features in Adobe and this drew me to a pay software vs the freeware. Right now I just figured out how to download the old reliable Windows Movie Maker 6.0 - just enough to help me clip my new VHS transfers then store them on my hard drive until I get good with a decent pay editing software. Ultimately this will be to help enhance the quality of my Keisha vid clips /compilation I'm working on completing. As you know some of these old VHS need a lot of help with improving the quality / brightening up, etc.

hermit-tech · March 16th, 2013, 07:49 AM

Retro_XXX_Buff,

You might want to take a look at AVS Software Suite

http://www.avs4you.com/

I have been using this for years with great results.

It does cause money but it is only $39.00 for one year or $59.00 for unlimited updates. They do offer a free trial version everything works but it puts watermarks in the videos but it would give you a chance to see how it works and if you like the features.

With the software suite it includes video, audio, image, editors and some misc programs for creating discs and cleaning the registry.

I bought the whole suite but do not use the reg cleaner or the disc creator (I have other programs that I like better)

The video converter allows you to convert any source video into any format you would like this includes dvd, bluray, apple, android etc...

You can use the video capture capabilities included in the programs to rip vhs tapes (with a rca to usb interface device) You can insert captions or remove them also.

Hope this helps a little.

**cryingyogi** · March 16th, 2013, 10:10 AM

I used to use adobe premier years ago and found it a bit a pain in some ways. particularly it didn't play nice with web found clips.

switched to sony vegas movie studio HD platinum a few years ago and found it much easier and does everything i want. and imo it stands up to adobes full price Premier pretty well for a fraction of the price. (at hobbyist level - and low pro level, i edit video for clients with it too)

any kind of video editing might lead to needing to learn a few bits - especially if you're editing found stuff. well worth downloading the demo though!

--

virtuadub is excellent as far as it goes. if the clip is the right format for Vdub, and i only want to crop it down or do something really simple, i sometimes use it instead of vegas because it's quicker. and sometimes i might use it for compressing or resizing a clip i've made in vegas.

**Retro_XXX_Buff** · March 16th, 2013, 04:46 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions fellas.

**bombermouse** · March 16th, 2013, 05:25 PM

Anybody have any suggestions for Mac movie editing? I've been using MPEG Streamclip freeware and it's not bad but a bit cumbersome. I think I'm ready to spend some (not a lot of) money for something faster and cleaner.

**Blue126** · March 16th, 2013, 06:34 PM

Try this: http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tvmw5.html, I find it a very decent bit of kit.

**TCO95** · March 21st, 2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro_XXX_Buff

TCO95,
...
I was reading about things like a green screen feature and possible removing of subtitle type features in Adobe and this drew me to a pay software vs the freeware. .... As you know some of these old VHS need a lot of help with improving the quality / brightening up, etc.

I don't know what green screen is but Virtualdub will remove subtitles with the filter 'Logo Away'. If you get some of its extensions, you can work with mp4, flv, avi, mpeg, mpg, et al. I found one extension which has an elaborate colour correction/enhancement filter called RGB Equalizer which allows up to 17 channels of equalization. The power of that program is all in the Filters. It also works with all the major video/audio compression routines and it allows you to customize how they work. Its a lot of program for free.

**Retro_XXX_Buff** · March 22nd, 2013, 04:46 AM

I thought I read somewhere that you could edit the audio quite a bit as well.

I don't know if it's a possibility, but it would be awesome to split the audio in a way that you could take out the music altogether / or lower the volume then enhance the verbal dialogue between the actors. That way it would be easier to understand what they're saying to each other.

TCO95, good info on the VDub - I'll have to DL and play with it.

March 16th, 2013, 12:34 AM	#1
Retro_XXX_Buff Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 659 Thanks: 5,298 Thanked 16,081 Times in 638 Posts	Want to buy Movie Editing Software. I just got a new Dell 660s with I5 processor. Don't know alot of the tech stuff but told the salesman at Dell I would be doing video editing at a hobbyist level. I went out and paid $ 149 for that Adobe Photoshop Elements 11 & Adobe Premiere Elements 11 and disappointed it's not letting me save my AVI's at the 640 x 480 setting and mostly getting no audio, only repeated blips of audio followed by silence. Any other suggestions as far as ease of use for novice without having to figure out addding extra codecs type of software ? I understand I'm leaving out a lot of info on my PC - just interested in hearing you guys experience with other programs. I know there's no guarantees any one system will work. Looking at Pinnacle, Corel, or Sony Vegas. Any input is appreciated. Last edited by Retro_XXX_Buff; March 16th, 2013 at 07:26 AM..

March 16th, 2013, 07:49 AM	#4
hermit-tech Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Florida, Death's waiting room! Posts: 288 Thanks: 11,162 Thanked 3,965 Times in 287 Posts	Retro_XXX_Buff, You might want to take a look at AVS Software Suite http://www.avs4you.com/ I have been using this for years with great results. It does cause money but it is only $39.00 for one year or $59.00 for unlimited updates. They do offer a free trial version everything works but it puts watermarks in the videos but it would give you a chance to see how it works and if you like the features. With the software suite it includes video, audio, image, editors and some misc programs for creating discs and cleaning the registry. I bought the whole suite but do not use the reg cleaner or the disc creator (I have other programs that I like better) The video converter allows you to convert any source video into any format you would like this includes dvd, bluray, apple, android etc... You can use the video capture capabilities included in the programs to rip vhs tapes (with a rca to usb interface device) You can insert captions or remove them also. Hope this helps a little. __________________ "I believe this boy's cheese slipped off his cracker!" "He's always chasing the pot of gold, but when he gets there, at the end of the day, it's just corn flakes."

March 16th, 2013, 10:10 AM	#5
cryingyogi Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 901 Thanks: 2,377 Thanked 31,899 Times in 901 Posts	I used to use adobe premier years ago and found it a bit a pain in some ways. particularly it didn't play nice with web found clips. switched to sony vegas movie studio HD platinum a few years ago and found it much easier and does everything i want. and imo it stands up to adobes full price Premier pretty well for a fraction of the price. (at hobbyist level - and low pro level, i edit video for clients with it too) any kind of video editing might lead to needing to learn a few bits - especially if you're editing found stuff. well worth downloading the demo though! -- virtuadub is excellent as far as it goes. if the clip is the right format for Vdub, and i only want to crop it down or do something really simple, i sometimes use it instead of vegas because it's quicker. and sometimes i might use it for compressing or resizing a clip i've made in vegas. Last edited by cryingyogi; March 16th, 2013 at 10:19 AM..

March 16th, 2013, 06:34 PM	#8
Blue126 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,927 Thanks: 19,029 Thanked 72,069 Times in 1,922 Posts	Try this: http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tvmw5.html, I find it a very decent bit of kit. __________________ Sorry, I can no longer reupload and replace my dead links. Please post a reup request in the Classic Movies Report Thread and include a link to the post with dead links. Thanks.

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March 16th, 2013, 06:03 AM	#2
TCO95 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: This member is not allowed in your country. Posts: 5,176 Thanks: 47,615 Thanked 64,797 Times in 5,130 Posts	Virtualdub is a free video editing program. It is extensible via plugins and filters and has an active support community. I use it as my default video editor. http://www.virtualdub.org/

March 16th, 2013, 07:25 AM	#3
Retro_XXX_Buff Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 659 Thanks: 5,298 Thanked 16,081 Times in 638 Posts	TCO95, Thanks for freeware suggestion, I'll try it for basic clipping. I had bought that Adobe because it had a lot of effects / editing options vs. the Windows Movie Maker I had been using. I was reading about things like a green screen feature and possible removing of subtitle type features in Adobe and this drew me to a pay software vs the freeware. Right now I just figured out how to download the old reliable Windows Movie Maker 6.0 - just enough to help me clip my new VHS transfers then store them on my hard drive until I get good with a decent pay editing software. Ultimately this will be to help enhance the quality of my Keisha vid clips /compilation I'm working on completing. As you know some of these old VHS need a lot of help with improving the quality / brightening up, etc.

March 16th, 2013, 04:46 PM	#6
Retro_XXX_Buff Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 659 Thanks: 5,298 Thanked 16,081 Times in 638 Posts	Thanks for all the suggestions fellas.

March 16th, 2013, 05:25 PM	#7
bombermouse Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In the fog Posts: 3,849 Thanks: 105,626 Thanked 33,456 Times in 3,820 Posts	Anybody have any suggestions for Mac movie editing? I've been using MPEG Streamclip freeware and it's not bad but a bit cumbersome. I think I'm ready to spend some (not a lot of) money for something faster and cleaner.

March 22nd, 2013, 04:46 AM	#10
Retro_XXX_Buff Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 659 Thanks: 5,298 Thanked 16,081 Times in 638 Posts	I thought I read somewhere that you could edit the audio quite a bit as well. I don't know if it's a possibility, but it would be awesome to split the audio in a way that you could take out the music altogether / or lower the volume then enhance the verbal dialogue between the actors. That way it would be easier to understand what they're saying to each other. TCO95, good info on the VDub - I'll have to DL and play with it.