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Old 08-08-2018, 01:34 AM   #1961
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Another Classic from this once Great Country Called England..
In the South of The County of Lincolnshire, 30% of the residents (farm workers) Can't or Won't speak English.. So the Police have decided to hire members of these non English speaking communities...
Just a suggestion, How about Learning English if you want to live/work over here..

I'm surprised no-one has made this obvious point: they are probably temporary residents, come to do low-paid work - at wages British workers would not accept. They have practically no contact with English people; they don't need to speak English. When the farm work is over they will go home. Perhaps some of them will work as cleaners during the winter, and do farm work again next summer, but eventually most of them will leave.

Do you remember the Morecambe Bay disaster in 2004 when more than 20 Chinese were drowned by a sudden high tide when they were picking cockles? They were illegal immigrants who the authorities - helpfully - did not notice.

I will be politically correct and say: on the labour of the Linconshire farm-workers and the Morecambe cockle-pickers, we live comfortably.
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I'm surprised no-one has made this obvious point: they are probably temporary residents, come to do low-paid work - at wages British workers would not accept.
That's true, but they are also the reason why wages are so low that British workers would not accept them: mass unskilled immigration drives down wages for the unskilled jobs. After all, British workers were presumably doing these jobs until the expansion of the EU in 2004.
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I'm surprised no-one has made this obvious point: they are probably temporary residents, come to do low-paid work - at wages British workers would not accept. They have practically no contact with English people; they don't need to speak English. When the farm work is over they will go home. Perhaps some of them will work as cleaners during the winter, and do farm work again next summer, but eventually most of them will leave.

Do you remember the Morecambe Bay disaster in 2004 when more than 20 Chinese were drowned by a sudden high tide when they were picking cockles? They were illegal immigrants who the authorities - helpfully - did not notice.

I will be politically correct and say: on the labour of the Linconshire farm-workers and the Morecambe cockle-pickers, we live comfortably.
I have read your post several times, And can't agree with any of it..
Low wages.?, They earn more in a week than they could earn in a year where they come from, That's why they never go home.
As for speaking English, You tell me how several different nationalities can communicate at work without a common language, what happens when they go shopping or to the pub..
British people have been working the land for centuries, so these leeches are not needed..
Cockles. Don't eat them, so I don't care.
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When I tried to return to this thread on Saturday 11th August, it was inaccessible. Did someone post something offensive? If so, I hope it wasn't in response to my post.

If people go to England as immigrants, with nothing left in their countries of origin, I think they should adapt as much as possible, and learning English is one of the most important things. It should be the language spoken at home, at least when the children are there. That's how it was with both my sets of grandparents. But if they just go as workers for a few years, I think we can be more tolerant. Let them save to build a new family house, and build up some capital to start a business, and then they're off. You don't need to speak when you go round a supermarket. At work, all their fellow workers are from their own country; they only need one who can speak English. It's similar to the British these days who go and work in Dubai or Shanghai for a few years, and then go home. How much Arabic or Chinese do they learn?

As for British workers and low wages on the farms - I'm not an economist or a sociologist, but as I understand it, some things have changed.

In the relationship between farmers and supermarkets, the latter have become much too strong, and have been able to beat down the prices paid to farmers. Meanwhile, British workers have changed. They used to be willing to be farmworkers, just as they used to be willing to be servants or nannies or charwomen. Now they may do similar jobs, but they prefer to be construction workers, or office cleaners, or teachers' assistants in kindergartens, or whatever. Farmers can't afford to offer higher wages to attract them back - because they have to sell at such low prices to the supermarkets! So reluctantly, but necessarily, we welcome the (legal) Rumanians and even the (illegal) Chinese. Even stranger, this is a sign of Britain's success. Foreigners want to go and work there.
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When I tried to return to this thread on Saturday 11th August, it was inaccessible. Did someone post something offensive? If so, I hope it wasn't in response to my post.
Umm, yeah, I did remove it for a short while then restored it.

I've been down this path before and won't again.

For the last time, this thread was meant to be a light hearted laugh and joke at political correctness, nothing more or less.

I was away for a few days only to come back and once again see the thread headed exactly where I've said I didn't want it to go ... Race, Immigration and so on, that's where this thread once again starts trouble and arguments, keep in mind it was meant for a laugh and joke.

That said, I don't give a damn about it anymore, I have been a bit hypocritical where I've said about other threads we allow member to let threads evolve, to a point That all said, I won't be protecting members from getting into trouble any longer, you'll all have to do that yourselves.
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That was probably me, Not so much offensive, More likely Sarcastic.

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I take it as a sign of the times. You are dealing with a populace that are dealing with changing demographics and the difficulties of dealing with those changes and the implications of them. Mind you at the heart of the changes are groups that were once marginalized and now the rules seem to have changed to make that off-limits. You can see where some of the frustration of "political correctness" can come in for some people being that it's sorta constrains people from discussing things they perceived to be a problem.
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