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June 20th, 2018, 04:40 PM | #1441 | |
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It was evident to all from the mid 1930's on that the bastard was looking to expand Nazi Germany. How would you as a pacifist Marxist Anarchist Buddhist real honest to goodness Communist have persuaded Adolf to hold a vote of the German people before declaring the Anschluss and the annexing of the Sudetenland? Shoulda woulda coulda ..... don't work in real life https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/15/m...da-woulda.html
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Don't you understand that in a lot of Western democracies, elites have written Constitutions that do not represent the interests of their citizens. If Marx had written the German Constitution, Germany never would have gone on war in WWI or in WWII. Just read his books. Real Marxists are peaceful. Not fake Marxists as deepsepia is used to mention. That's the kind of people that you defend that declare that war and unfairness as... normal. |
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June 20th, 2018, 05:17 PM | #1443 | |
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I'm defending no one xyz just pointing out the total impossibility of your visions, the world has never been and never will be better if ruled by a committee of experts
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June 20th, 2018, 05:34 PM | #1444 | |
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The Islamic Republic of Iran It's called the velayet i-faqih = "Guardianship of the [Islamic] jurisprudential scholars" They have a Parliament and somewhat legimate elections -- but the "guardians" can basically throw anyone out and.are accountable to no one. |
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June 20th, 2018, 05:42 PM | #1445 | |
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I don't know why do you try to disqualify better and fairer political systems as the ones that exist today. Do you really want to live in this mediocre system, when better ones are possible and protectable by a fair Constitution written by and for the citizens? Last edited by Roubignol; June 21st, 2018 at 07:39 PM.. Reason: added "know" ;) |
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June 20th, 2018, 06:51 PM | #1446 |
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Philosophical orientation is pragmatism. IMO we should look to what has worked well in government and avoid what has not. Some socialist ideas are working very well in many places. Laissez faire capitalism has proven to breed widespread social inequity, resentment, and ultimately civil disorder and violence. The idealistic notions of communism have bred state violence, economic inefficiency and stagnation, and tyranny in most countries where it has been tried.
I would really like to see us try to adopt the best features of the various systems of government while avoiding what hasn't worked. There seems to be little point in promoting political systems that proved wildly unpopular, and, thus acquired odious reputations. Few of us would advocate a return to chattel slavery, would we? (Hint: the masters thought it was great and argued that the slaves were well served by that arrangement, but the ungrateful wretches kept rebelling) How about feudalism? I'm just saying that those who advocate communism or anarchy wind up looking like idiots to normal people. |
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I deal in the reality of political power. The world has lots of experience with tyrants of different flavors-- and only a very limited number of systems that have proven effective in restraining tyranny. The idea "wouldn't it be nice if I were a good king" doesn't hold any appeal for me. Quote:
Political systems are intrinsically dangerous. They put power in the hands of a small number of people-- and as the State has grown more efficient, the things that it can do are terrifying and murderous. So in my world -- which Brits will recognize as "Whiggish"-- the first order of business in a political system is to divide up power into separate pots, checks and balances. And I happily settle for "mediocre" -- when the alternative is tyranny. Imperial Germany was quite effective as a government-- when it was lead by Bismarck; when the idiot Kaiser decided that he was a big boy and was tired of the Iron Chancellor, all that power turned it into a disaster. Good systems are by definition not "the best". They're what avoids "the worst". |
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It's quite evident that in the USA, you have eluded the fact to question your own Constitution. In France, there always was thinkers who disputed it.... but they are confronted by the manipulation of the French and European "leisure class". It's difficult to get a fairest distribution of money, if the strongest economy (USA) fights against it, because it's country runned by a greedy plutocracy. |
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June 22nd, 2018, 02:54 PM | #1449 | |
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I'm happier living in the present real life system we have than one that is merely a series of random rainbow-scented ideas being floated around with never any chance of entering the realm of reality.
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And of football interest . . . Russia has just declassified materials documenting how Stalin had the founders of the Spartak football club purged for an alleged plot, some were shot, some narrowly escaped with their lives. Original reporting was in Russian in Kommersant; this is clearly an effort towards openness by the regime towards some openness about their history, which is to be welcomed . . .
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