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View Poll Results: What is to blame for Paris attack?
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:31 AM   #21
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religion is the root of Evil.

Steven Weinberg said : "With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

If You choice faith before reason, that is . Religion is a Placebo , if You think it work ,it will work. Also there are so many different religions that it is impossible that every religion is the right one and the true path to follow . "they" can't be right all together in this. So follow this religion and not that religion and you will go to heaven. and this is true for every religion , everybody sits in the good/right religion, all of them. that is not possible. this outdated system of keeping people together with the means of old books(bible,thora,etc) has to stop and this will be the next step in evolution . Now here come's the part why some religions are more scary then other religions. Islam is a world conquering religion which most spread all over the world.because when something is written in a holy book(any holy book!) it is the word of god and it is true so if it says: islam will be the biggest religion and the world get sharia. it is because it is the last religion according through god, sending this to his prophet Mo. because this is the last book (part3) it was the intention that the bible people and Jew's would accept this last book and so no problems. Islam believes in the bible and thora ,but thanks to book 3 there now the ultra super best people and have a place in heaven , not the christians and Jews , well in there own books it is the way around ofcourse , heaven and the others go to hell. luckily churches are closing because there are no followers in my country... No new nuns who think " hey that is something I wanna be " (last nun turns of the light of the chapel ) thanks to internet . information is out there. in stead of blind following some outdated book , try wikipedia . last rant : if you pray/communicate with god (duplex comms!) from earth to god it is oke and you are not crazy , but if god communicates back from heaven back to earth to anybody , he/she will go to an institution of the mental choe-choe crazy people next to the people who thinks he is napoleon.

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Old 01-09-2015, 07:10 AM   #22
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Who's to blame? Well. Partly the French government.
When you have un-armed police patrolling the streets on bicycles you are asking for trouble.
They also have very strict gun control.
They do have gun control in France but nothing like as strict as in the UK; and French gendarmes carry guns when on duty; some Municipal police do and some don't, depending on what the municipality decides.

Incidents such as this one are far more uncommon in Europe than in the USA, where everyone has the constitutional right to bear arms, and where spree murders exactly like this one are ten a penny. Shall I make a list of American spree murders exactly like this one for you, Rodak, or will you concede that your point does not stand up to even cursory examination?
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:27 AM   #23
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Scoundrel,the UK and Europe haven't been their focus,the US and Israel has,the great Satin in their view.This could be the beginning of what they've been wanting for hundreds of years,no one knows because we've collected no intelligence from them in the last several years.Thats why everything is such a surprise when it happens.Evidently there are not as many of them suicidal raving idiots as maybe some of us think because there is nothing to stop them from doing the exact same thing most anywhere most they want about anytime they want.We here have the option,even the French cops didn't have that and died on their knees.If they are able to scrounge up enough suicidal idiots most of you will wish you had the option too.
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I call it insanity. Such fanatacism isn't normal. I also do not fully attribute Islam.

What's "insane" about it?

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Here in the US, we've got some real religious nutcases. It wouldn't take much for something to flip a switch in their brain and then they pick up their guns and take out their enemies.
Somehow, that switch doesn't get flipped nearly so often as it does with Muslims, does it.

Also in the news, but overshadowed by events in France

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Boko Haram razed at least 16 towns and villages in northern Nigeria and may have killed up to 2,000 people since the weekend, officials said Thursday.

After capturing a key military base in northeast Nigeria on Saturday, members of the feared armed group used crude bombs to level entire towns, according to local authorities.

Musa Bukar, head of the Kukawa local government area, told BBC News 16 communities were “burned to the ground” and that corpses were strewn across the town of Baga
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...ramattack.html
Speaking of Boko Haram, remember #BringBackOurGirls?

Any of them been "brought back"?

Nope.

They've been given or sold to jihadis, apparently

That's not a Nigeria specific thing, btw

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The Yazidi religious minority community in Iraq says 3,500 of its women and girls are still being held by the so-called Islamic State (IS), many being used as sex slaves. A few have managed to escape and here tell their harrowing stories.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30573385
What do Islamic State and Boko Haram have in common?
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I hope they are found interrogated and then slaughtered in that order for their actions.
The last thing that should be done to these bastards is to kill them. Why create martyrs for the cause?

Edit: 12:00PM, it's over. French police/military killed the two brothers after a hostage stand off at a printing warehouse.
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The last thing that should be done to these bastards is to kill them. Why create martyrs for the cause?
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In their warped minds they already are martyrs when they die in action.
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the fault lies with us westerners ,we are to tolerant of outsiders who want to destroy our way of life.we should be more like the Saudis ,who wont allow any Christianity in their country.lets hope European youth will take up the fight to defend our values
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They do have gun control in France but nothing like as strict as in the UK; and French gendarmes carry guns when on duty; some Municipal police do and some don't, depending on what the municipality decides.

Incidents such as this one are far more uncommon in Europe than in the USA, where everyone has the constitutional right to bear arms, and where spree murders exactly like this one are ten a penny. Shall I make a list of American spree murders exactly like this one for you, Rodak, or will you concede that your point does not stand up to even cursory examination?

You are correct on your spree murder quote.. However you have forgotten one thing.
It is the evil people who obtain firearms that commit your spree murders.
And one more thing.
Millions of honest legal owners of firearms in America never spree murdered or harmed anyone today.
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For all the millions of legal gun owners in America, it doesn't seem to have stopped all the shootings.

Events like these will always happen, no matter how many guns you throw at it IMO
Legal gun owners do stop a few more shootings than the liberal media will report.
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If the French government had thrown a firearm or two the way of the unarmed police officer who was assassinated.. He might still be alive today.
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It's going to be almost impossible to put a stop to it now.It's gone too far.What can they do,put snipers on the rooftops of every major city.Lets hope it doesn't come to that.There is not a single country in the free world that has any idea who or what is inside their borders right now.
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