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Old May 29th, 2018, 11:29 PM   #33711
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They're cops, not social workers.

So cops are excused having to use a bit of common sense ?
Thanks for that helpful voyage into the depths of your weird mind.

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Old May 29th, 2018, 11:39 PM   #33712
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So cops are excused having to use a bit of common sense ?
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"See person commit crime, arrest them immediately"



I may not like the laws they are paid to enforce, like in this case, I think drinking on the beach is fine, heck, in France, in the 70's, they gave us 8-9 year old kids wine with our school lunches, and then let us run it off playing soccer.
I don't like the laws that got Tommy Robinson arrested, either.
Maybe they should have approached him later, and had a little chat, instead of following orders and procedures? He wasn't drunk in public or carrying (gasp!) a swiss army knife.
Glass houses, etc.

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You have to wonder why they would choose to approach her at that time, surely it would have made more sense to question her away from a crowd of onlookers, maybe when she was leaving or maybe at home as they obviously knew where she lived, as I said the very best I can say is they handled this pretty poorly.
They probably weren't expecting her to start kicking and spitting. Once that happened they can't just walk away. And to be realistic, pretty much ANY arrest "looks bad".
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Old May 30th, 2018, 09:07 AM   #33714
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Thanks for the helpful voyage into your efficacy as a cop.

Ouch, that cuts me to the quick
We will rarely see eye to eye on anything so to be honest I largely ignore what you say, got to go now I need to hide my scissors in case the police pop round unexpectedly.

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They probably weren't expecting her to start kicking and spitting. Once that happened they can't just walk away. And to be realistic, pretty much ANY arrest "looks bad".
As the woman herself stated "The cops smashed my head into the ground when he tackled me and I spit the sand out of my mouth," Emily Weinman told reporters in a Facebook message. "So no, it is not true."

We will never get the real truth but I never indicated there was any issue with the legality of the actual arrest, the rules regarding underage drinking are different in the States. I have been drinking since I was 13 and have never been in any bother.
I just questioned the wisdom of those involved. Mind you in a world where trigger-happy cops often shoot and kill unarmed civilians I guess she got away lightly.
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Old May 30th, 2018, 10:09 AM   #33715
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I never got into trouble for underage drinking either,Mind You at 15 I was 6ft 1 and 180 odd pounds,These US heroes might have thought twice about it..
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The law is slowly turning the screw on ticket touts.

Don't buy tickets from Viagogo, minister warns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44299981


It has been going on for far too long and well done to Ed Sheeran for being one of those big names helping bringing the issue back into the headlines. Those profiteering vermin who used to grab loads of tickets and re-sold on Ebay and other sites are slowly losing that revenue source.

Shame it was not shut down by HMG and Trading Standards many years ago
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I don't like the laws that got Tommy Robinson arrested, either. Maybe they should have approached him later, and had a little chat, instead of following orders and procedures? He wasn't drunk in public or carrying (gasp!) a swiss army knife. Glass houses, etc.
Because it's now possible to discuss what happened in a little more detail and we have a better idea of what took place, the stupidity and arrogance of this man, who was pretending to be some kind of a bona fide reporter is quite astonishing. Perhaps there is a case to relax some of our laws concerning freedom of speech, but Robinson had already run into serious trouble over contempt of court issues and continued to think he was above UK law, which he clearly understood. To be putting out live Internet reports of this sensitive case, was totally mad and that's why the judge decided to teach him a lesson.

Talk about not knowing how to work the system, this was crazy, amateurish nonsense, although you have to wonder if he actually got the result he wanted by being put in jail.

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He was already on a suspended sentence for the self same offence.
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U.S. Televangelist Jesse Duplantis has urged his congregation to raise $54 million - because he really needs a private jet to allow him to do his important work.

This shows the crisis of imagination that exists within the Christian religion. If he were a modern, forward-thinking Muslim, he'd just hijack one as that is the traditional and approved method of plane acquisition.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVXjBMK3EkI

"Look to the heavens and see it shine
heals the sick and leads the blind
tune it in and hear it say
it's counting down to judgment day"

Why do people still buy into that fundamentalist bullshit these days ?
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