The NFL and NBA thread

[SanteeFats]

Man oh man, why don't they just put the entire offensive team in pink skirts. There seems to be very little defense allowed any more. It sucks IMO.

[9876543210]

tygrkhat40,

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

That Green Bay/Washington MNF game was the highest scoring MNF game ever. That Washington team set the record for most points in a season; QB Joe Theismann said that he knew they could score 47 points in a game, he didn't think that GB could score 48.

Ahh yes. Thats right, Theisman. Do you remember if that was the same year he broke his leg so badly? Ouch! I can still see that.

The Fog Game was a playoff game between Chicago and Philadelphia in 1989 in Chicago. The game started in clear, unseasonably warm conditions and then the monumental fog bank came in off of Lake Michigan. Many Eagle partisans still believe that if the weather had not changed, they would have won and possible gone to the Super Bowl.

Yes again. The game you could almost see what was going on. Probably the strangest televised game in history.

[9876543210]

Motorboater,

Originally Posted by Motorboater

As an outsider, who wasn't even aware of the nfl at the tie. When reading up on my nfl history. It's been interesting noting the high esteem the 85 Bears are held. It's almost like the 49ers had to win 4 sb, just to be considered the Bears equal! I also remember reading up on peoples opinions (forums and elsewhere), where Bears fans who remember them were pissed off that they didn't win more.

Again, as a die hard Packer fan, I have to tell you how much I hate the Bears! But those Bears fans are right. That team should have won at least three or four superbowls. That defense was just that dominant.

Its been too long but I'm almost positive I remember sensing real fear on the part of opposing teams when lining up against that defense. Often, you just had the feeling you were watching men lining up against boys. God how I hate saying that. But they were really that good.

They didn't win more Superbowls for the usual reasons; pride and money. Payton tried his best to keep the team together but even he just wasn't enough. Do have to say one more thing though. Walter Payton was one of the best people ever to be associated with the NFL (or any other organization for that matter). Miss that guy to this day.

Personally, I relate them to the Rams. 1sb win, but I consider them the best team. In fact, I think the sb losing Rams is the single best team I know of.

The Rams? The Rosey Grier LA Rams? Well, that defensive front four was exceptionally good (maybe the equal of the Bears front four) but the rest of the defense wouldn't come close. But I think most of the Ram's front four is in the Hall of Fame. As are quite a few of the Bears.

[9876543210]

SanteeFats,

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

Man oh man, why don't they just put the entire offensive team in pink skirts. There seems to be very little defense allowed any more. It sucks IMO.

Really hate to say this but I think the heyday of the NFL has come and gone. We'll probably be seeing this from now on.

Did you happen to catch Frontline this last week? They had an article on continuing research into this concussion problem. Not good. Not good at all. According to the article, pee wee football enrollment is now down about 8% over the last couple of years.

[victor meldrew]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

I sense the basement closing in on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVBPGZEVRH0

MNF Battle of the Basement.

Its possible we might have to share, unless a tie break rule applies

[tygrkhat40]

It all comes down to MNF. P-dog and t-khat are tied at 13-1. If Seattle wins, I win; if Washington wins, P-dog wins.

Originally Posted by Motorboater

In fact, I think the sb losing Rams is the single best team I know of.

Most say the best team to lose a Super Bowl would be the 2007 almost perfect Patriots. I'm partial to the 1990 Bills myself.

I think most people look as to why 1985 Bears are one of the greatest teams is the image of the franchise. As pro football organizations go, only the Cardinals and Packers are older. Their founder is also considered the founder of the league. Halas always built his championship teams with punishing defenses. The most feared defensive player in NFL history was a Bear. The city of Chicago is considered a tough place. Football is a physical game and those who play the game in a physical way are lionized.

The 49ers of the 1980's were the team of the decade. Yet, they take a backseat to the Bears as the iconic team of the '80's. Again, it goes to the image of the franchise. The architect of their success was offensive minded. Two of the greatest offensive players of all time were part of that team. The iconic plays were offensive. They didn't beat you up, they surgically cut you apart. San Francisco is considered a laid-back place. Since the Niners were considered a "finesse" team, the primitive mentality of the sport places the "physical" Bears atop the heap.

Ironically, it's easier to run the Niners West Coast Offense rather than the Bears 46 Defense.

[winebeavis]

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

It all comes down to MNF. P-dog and t-khat are tied at 13-1. If Seattle wins, I win; if Washington wins, P-dog wins.

Noticed your were perfect until SNF. As a long time Bengals fan I can assure you that you can always count on the Bengals to let you down.

[9876543210]

tygrkhat40,

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

I think most people look as to why 1985 Bears are one of the greatest teams is the image of the franchise. As pro football organizations go, only the Cardinals and Packers are older. Their founder is also considered the founder of the league. Halas always built his championship teams with punishing defenses. The most feared defensive player in NFL history was a Bear. The city of Chicago is considered a tough place. Football is a physical game and those who play the game in a physical way are lionized.

The 49ers of the 1980's were the team of the decade. Yet, they take a backseat to the Bears as the iconic team of the '80's. Again, it goes to the image of the franchise. The architect of their success was offensive minded. Two of the greatest offensive players of all time were part of that team. The iconic plays were offensive. They didn't beat you up, they surgically cut you apart. San Francisco is considered a laid-back place. Since the Niners were considered a "finesse" team, the primitive mentality of the sport places the "physical" Bears atop the heap.

Ran into an old friend today who is a huge Bears fan and he brought up an interesting point about why the Bears didn't win any more Superbowl's.

The McCaskey's! He suggested the McCaskey's look at the Bears as a money making venture and thats all it is to them. He also suggested the McCaskey's traded 12 of their best players shortly after the game was over. Including Willy Gault who was, apparently, the fastest man in the world at the time.

Just one Bears fan opinion. But I think he's right.

[Motorboater]

Originally Posted by 9876543210

Motorboater,
The Rams? The Rosey Grier LA Rams? Well, that defensive front four was exceptionally good (maybe the equal of the Bears front four) but the rest of the defense wouldn't come close. But I think most of the Ram's front four is in the Hall of Fame. As are quite a few of the Bears.

No man! The Greatest Show on Turf Rams! Video game offence (offense?)

[tygrkhat40]

Week 5 Standings

Player	G	W	L	Pct.	W	L	Pct.	Wk W
keefriff	76	53	23	0.697	12	3	0.800	W3
Pukindog	76	48	28	0.632	13	2	0.867
T2000	76	47	29	0.618	12	3	0.800
Rick Danger	60	37	23	0.617	12	3	0.800
ourlad	76	46	30	0.605	13	2	0.867
tygrkhat40	76	46	30	0.605	14	1	0.933	W1
winebeavis	76	46	30	0.605	11	4	0.733	W1
Motorboater	76	45	31	0.592	11	4	0.733
victor meldrew	76	37	39	0.487	9	6	0.600
scoundrel	76	36	40	0.474	7	8	0.467

This is my first win since Week 7 of the 2012 season. I can't even give you a picture of one of this year's Jills, because there are no Jills this season. Due to a lawsuit from some former Jills, the squad was suspended for this season.

So here's this lovely babe in a bikini.

As to why the Bears haven't won since 1985, it's the (lack of) cheerleaders. The team had the Honey Bears squad in the 70's and 80's and the Papa Bear said the Bears would always have cheerleaders. When Virginia McCaskey took over the team, she disbanded the Honey Bears.