Remakes !

MaxJoker · August 18th, 2009, 10:22 AM

I remember cringing when i first heard about them remaking Superman , and rightly so as despite a few snazzy effects it was a complete damp squib totally failing to mirror the entertaining magic or acting chemistry of the original . Felt the same when Zombie`s updated Halloween came into being , never more so as nobody much listened to me and so Mr Myers turned into a weak caricature of it`s mighty predecessor .Why did they even try in the first place ?, what are there no new original script ideas anymore ?

Well that`s impossible of course ,as i’ve written three in the last two years. Yet still the easy safe option of the remake (Or that other risky option the sequel ) has become the mainstay of the mainstream . Alright some remakes sound quite good and were great. Like Invasion of the body snatches (The one with Donald Sutherland ) for instance

I`m even hopeful of the proposed Judge Dredd one . As lets be honest the original was such a turkey i`m surprised they didn`t include a packet of sage and onion with each DVD. But now the latest news i hear is a remake of Straw Dogs ! , what are they kidding . How can you remake that classic ?, never more since it was of it`s time . What are they going to change the tale so it`s about a young couple who move to a Muslim community and end up getting terrorized after inadvertently insulting them by roasting a pig in their back garden ?.

Madness , i mean the next thing you know they`ll be talking about remaking that iconic masterpiece The Wickerman

Moving on then

See this thread is about the remakes you think should never have happened , and the remakes you wish they`d hurry up and do . Also the ones you liked or didn`t or , well you know

By the by don`t just throw in some titles with no explanation as to why you`ve done so as that`s kinda lazy (And lazy don`t cut it) , plus this is a discussion thread after all

**dohupa** · August 18th, 2009, 10:36 AM

It depends on the talent of the filmmaker really. Martin Scorsese's version of Cape Fear was a lot better than the original mind you.

Nick Nolte wasn't so innocent (remember the tension scenes with Jessica lange?) and that added to the depth of the character.

That said, I would love Alfred Hitchcock being around and re-do Malice. Remember that great but under-estimated movie of the 90s?

Estreeter · August 18th, 2009, 10:39 AM

I'm often very critical of remakes, even too the point where I will just refuse too watch the remake, I do cave in and make exception from time too time.

"Cape Fear" is one of them simply for the fact that Robert Mitchum and Gregory Peck starred in the original had roles in the remake which starred Robert DeNiro, now thats a cast you cannot go wrong with. Very enjoyable.

**Greenman** · August 18th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Well I read that Battlestar Gallactica is to be remade, but hang on first there was a film, that begat the series, which begat a sequel or next generation type series and now a film-talk about going full circle! And not forgetting the James Bond remake of that 60's shambles Casino Royale which thankfully was ten times better than the origina, The Taking of Pelham 123 remade this year and the St Trinians films although that is a little more up-to-date than a total remake. What next I wonder?

**Giacson** · August 18th, 2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSkull

Madness , i mean the next thing you know they`ll be talking about remaking that iconic masterpiece The Wickerman

I dont really know if that was sarcasm or you missed this smelly wet dog featuring Nick Cage in the leading role.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450345/

I was disapointed in the remake of "Man Hunter". "Red Dragon" just didnt have the same punch as the original, though I do like most of Ed Norton's work. It was only a tool to promote the upcoming "Hannibal" at the time. In the original, they actualy managed to create a moment of sympathy for the greatly disturbed villain Dollarhyde that I prefered over the childhood history in the second. Tom Noonan and Joan Allen were much better played then Ralph Fiennes and Emily Watson

MaxJoker · August 18th, 2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giacson

I dont really know if that was sarcasm or you missed this smelly wet dog featuring Nick Cage in the leading role.

Obviously spoken (Ok written) by a fellow member not familiar with my work

As in i didn`t miss it , i practically ran from it. Bad enough they did a remake anyway but why have that failed Elvis impersonator in the lead role

Trying to think of the most recent decent remake i`ve seen lately and that would have to be the 3:10 to Yuma , surprisingly good in fact.

avidfan · August 18th, 2009, 04:46 PM

the remake of the italian job and get carter

you couldnt remake any of the early rocky films, nor the rocky horror picture show, alien, blade, my fair lady, any dirty harry film, terminator, its a wonderful life, porridge, steptoe and son...

spectacles · August 18th, 2009, 06:55 PM

The biggest travesty of them all
The Thomas Crown Affair
I dont care if Renne Russo got her Thrupennys out- Outstanding as they were
The whole thing was never going to be anywhere near as brilliant as the original
Cast, Music, the way it was shot and McQueen playing a sophisticated but ruthless business man. What on earth made Brosnan think he could do the role justice.
In the end you could have given the remake any title you liked. It was an average crime caper and not a patch on the original
BTW- When Faye Dunaway did that thing with her lips and the Bishop Chess piece- another one of those moments when you knew youd never be gay

Rant over but I swear to God if they ever try and remake
"Twleve O'Clock High" I will burn the studio down

**John C. Holmes** · August 18th, 2009, 07:32 PM

Ego has a LOT to do with remakes getting made. Platinum Dunes productions being the most infamous perpetrator. They did a horrible prequel to Texas Chainsaw Massacre and literally BUTCHERED Friday the 13th, (after years of claiming how much they loved the franchise and promises that they would do it justice,) and now they're going after Nightmare on Elm Street and the Hitchcock classic The Birds.

Let's see, EVERYTHING they have made to date looks like it was made with a bad handheld camcorder with no steadyhand feature. (They are obsessed with the documentary style of the 70's even if the movies they make don't call for it.) Now they want to give Nightmare and HITCHCOCK the same treatment? Looks like ego winning out over common sense AND talent here.

**squigg58** · August 18th, 2009, 09:33 PM

In no particular order ...
Planet of the Apes
The Producers
King Kong (pick any one!)
Godzilla
The Hitcher

Why don't they remake a film that SHOULD have been good but actually sucked ... like Dune?

August 18th, 2009, 10:22 AM	#1
MaxJoker Beloved Brother Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cemetery Gardens_Arterial Blood Lane_Rampton Secure Unit_Extra Violent F Wing_Cell 19 Posts: 69,106 Thanks: 372,713 Thanked 987,907 Times in 69,067 Posts	Remakes ! I remember cringing when i first heard about them remaking Superman , and rightly so as despite a few snazzy effects it was a complete damp squib totally failing to mirror the entertaining magic or acting chemistry of the original . Felt the same when Zombie`s updated Halloween came into being , never more so as nobody much listened to me and so Mr Myers turned into a weak caricature of it`s mighty predecessor .Why did they even try in the first place ?, what are there no new original script ideas anymore ? Well that`s impossible of course ,as i’ve written three in the last two years. Yet still the easy safe option of the remake (Or that other risky option the sequel ) has become the mainstay of the mainstream . Alright some remakes sound quite good and were great. Like Invasion of the body snatches (The one with Donald Sutherland ) for instance I`m even hopeful of the proposed Judge Dredd one . As lets be honest the original was such a turkey i`m surprised they didn`t include a packet of sage and onion with each DVD. But now the latest news i hear is a remake of Straw Dogs ! , what are they kidding . How can you remake that classic ?, never more since it was of it`s time . What are they going to change the tale so it`s about a young couple who move to a Muslim community and end up getting terrorized after inadvertently insulting them by roasting a pig in their back garden ?. Madness , i mean the next thing you know they`ll be talking about remaking that iconic masterpiece The Wickerman Moving on then See this thread is about the remakes you think should never have happened , and the remakes you wish they`d hurry up and do . Also the ones you liked or didn`t or , well you know By the by don`t just throw in some titles with no explanation as to why you`ve done so as that`s kinda lazy (And lazy don`t cut it) , plus this is a discussion thread after all __________________ My hypocrisy only goes so To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

August 18th, 2009, 10:36 AM	#2
dohupa Beer, porn and whatnot... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens Posts: 3,643 Thanks: 5,623 Thanked 73,144 Times in 3,245 Posts	It depends on the talent of the filmmaker really. Martin Scorsese's version of Cape Fear was a lot better than the original mind you. Nick Nolte wasn't so innocent (remember the tension scenes with Jessica lange?) and that added to the depth of the character. That said, I would love Alfred Hitchcock being around and re-do Malice. Remember that great but under-estimated movie of the 90s? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Estreeter *Administrator* Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The 19th hole Posts: 58,205 Thanks: 450,412 Thanked 897,715 Times in 60,407 Posts	Cape Fear I'm often very critical of remakes, even too the point where I will just refuse too watch the remake, I do cave in and make exception from time too time. "Cape Fear" is one of them simply for the fact that Robert Mitchum and Gregory Peck starred in the original had roles in the remake which starred Robert DeNiro, now thats a cast you cannot go wrong with. Very enjoyable. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

August 18th, 2009, 03:09 PM	#4
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August 18th, 2009, 06:55 PM	#8
spectacles Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 78 Thanks: 499 Thanked 803 Times in 71 Posts	remakes The biggest travesty of them all The Thomas Crown Affair I dont care if Renne Russo got her Thrupennys out- Outstanding as they were The whole thing was never going to be anywhere near as brilliant as the original Cast, Music, the way it was shot and McQueen playing a sophisticated but ruthless business man. What on earth made Brosnan think he could do the role justice. In the end you could have given the remake any title you liked. It was an average crime caper and not a patch on the original BTW- When Faye Dunaway did that thing with her lips and the Bishop Chess piece- another one of those moments when you knew youd never be gay Rant over but I swear to God if they ever try and remake "Twleve O'Clock High" I will burn the studio down Last edited by spectacles; August 18th, 2009 at 06:57 PM.. Reason: spelling mistake

August 18th, 2009, 04:46 PM	#7
avidfan Blocked! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 171 Thanks: 164 Thanked 390 Times in 120 Posts	the remake of the italian job and get carter you couldnt remake any of the early rocky films, nor the rocky horror picture show, alien, blade, my fair lady, any dirty harry film, terminator, its a wonderful life, porridge, steptoe and son...

August 18th, 2009, 07:32 PM	#9
John C. Holmes Vintage Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 710 Thanks: 14,642 Thanked 7,450 Times in 682 Posts	Ego has a LOT to do with remakes getting made. Platinum Dunes productions being the most infamous perpetrator. They did a horrible prequel to Texas Chainsaw Massacre and literally BUTCHERED Friday the 13th, (after years of claiming how much they loved the franchise and promises that they would do it justice,) and now they're going after Nightmare on Elm Street and the Hitchcock classic The Birds. Let's see, EVERYTHING they have made to date looks like it was made with a bad handheld camcorder with no steadyhand feature. (They are obsessed with the documentary style of the 70's even if the movies they make don't call for it.) Now they want to give Nightmare and HITCHCOCK the same treatment? Looks like ego winning out over common sense AND talent here.

August 18th, 2009, 09:33 PM	#10
squigg58 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own little world Posts: 2,476 Thanks: 14,113 Thanked 25,970 Times in 2,473 Posts	In no particular order ... Planet of the Apes The Producers King Kong (pick any one!) Godzilla The Hitcher Why don't they remake a film that SHOULD have been good but actually sucked ... like Dune?