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**pharoahegypt** · April 16th, 2017, 07:57 PM

Well; I wasn't too far off; though he left it a bit later to let the others past him....

Hamilton well deserved his 5s penalty for blocking Ricciardo in the pit lane, so he can have no complaint whatsoever.

Once again, Kimi left it until 2laps from the end to put in the fastest lap of the race. Is he taking the piss, not trying for the rest of the race, or is there something else afoot?

stockingclad · April 16th, 2017, 10:34 PM

Kimi is past his sell-by date and this was obvious last year. Ferrari need a good second driver if they are serious about a constructor title. I think Seb was instrumental in Ferrari retaining him.
Bottas promised something special in qualifying, as well as the opening laps.
But that faded and it was back to normal.
Disappointing, but we did have a more entertaining race than usual.

**Adam West** · April 17th, 2017, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stockingclad

Kimi is past his sell-by date and this was obvious last year. Ferrari need a good second driver if they are serious about a constructor title. I think Seb was instrumental in Ferrari retaining him.
Bottas promised something special in qualifying, as well as the opening laps.
But that faded and it was back to normal.
Disappointing, but we did have a more entertaining race than usual.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get replaced midway through the season. I was shocked that Ferrari kept him on. Honestly I thought Sergio Perez was going to Ferrari, but I'm sure Vettel had something to do with that.

**otokonomidori** · April 17th, 2017, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pharoahegypt

Well; I wasn't too far off; though he left it a bit later to let the others past him....

Hamilton well deserved his 5s penalty for blocking Ricciardo in the pit lane, so he can have no complaint whatsoever.

I thought what Hamilton did was very smart - it's not that it risked anyone's life.

The penalty ruined what might otherwise have been a close finish - it's like these f*cking "stewards" are on a mission to prevent any racing .

Hikarufan · April 20th, 2017, 02:38 PM

From sniff petrol...

Following yesterday’s news that Fernando Alonso will miss the Monaco Grand Prix to race in the Indy 500, McLaren have given details of the other races the Spanish driver will sit out, and the reasons why.

‘Fernando has suddenly realised he is quite busy with other engagements this year,’ admitted senior McLaren spokesman, Señor MacLaren-Spohksman. ‘In fact, the more he’s driven the MCL32, the more commitments elsewhere he seems to have remembered.’

The team today confirmed that, fresh from his Indy experience, Alonso will also miss the Canadian Grand Prix because he’ll be driving in a WRC event in Sardinia, the Azerbaijan race because he’ll be driving in a NASCAR race in California, and the Austrian GP because he’ll be driving up the M6 to Stoke-on-Trent to see his old mate Peter Wilson which has been in the diary for ages and, sorry, he really can’t get out of it.

Sources say Alonso will also miss the British Grand Prix because he has a friend’s wedding, the Hungarian Grand Prix because it’s Ruben Barichello’s 48 hour Dempsey & Makepeace marathon that weekend, and the Belgian Grand Prix because he really wants to watch the Belgian Grand Prix on telly. He will also sit out the Spanish Grand Prix because he has ‘a lot of friends coming in town’ that weekend.

In total, Alonso is expected to miss 18 races in the 2017 season, or 19 if you include the Chinese race which he has already wiped from his mind. A replacement for the absent Spanish driver has yet to be confirmed.

‘Oh no, my mobile phone and iPad and all other means of communication have fallen off my yacht and into the sea,’ said Jenson Button, yesterday. ‘Oh look, here comes a carrier pigeon…’ he added.

**pharoahegypt** · April 20th, 2017, 03:17 PM

I imagined that McLaren-Honda were using this Indy race as a test to see if he'd be interested in moving to that series next season, rather than losing him to another F1 team where he'd almost surely be finishing higher than he is right now.

I must admit I'd love him to have a few of those excuses as suggested above though, it would liven up the season no end.... Just hearing the team having to explain it to Sky or Ch4.

**henryf** · April 29th, 2017, 01:11 PM

Well, that was a real turn up for the books, I did not expect that result. Hamilton looked vulnerable and Raikkonen was a surprise.

Front row lock for the first time in 8 years for Ferrari, I think. It will be interesting to see whether Raikkonen finishes up running rear guard for Vettel. It looks as though it is Ferrari's race to lose, though last season proves they can make tactical mistakes. On the other hand, Mercedes have made mistakes this season.

I hope the race lives up to expectations. More excitement so far this season than the last 2 years put together.

will101 · April 30th, 2017, 12:36 PM

*** SPOILER ALERT ***

For those who haven't watched the race yet, please skip this.

Can someone verify for me that when Bottas passed Vettel at the start, that was the first pass for the lead this season that did not involve a pit stop? Which I believe is still a record for fewest on-track passes for the lead this far into the season.

**henryf** · April 30th, 2017, 01:36 PM

That was one good race. I won't spoil it for anyone who has not seen it yet.

**Motorboater** · May 1st, 2017, 09:44 AM

Are we done waiting for guys who haven't seen it to see it?

April 16th, 2017, 07:57 PM	#3111
pharoahegypt Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle England Posts: 4,492 Thanks: 10,177 Thanked 43,625 Times in 4,155 Posts	Well; I wasn't too far off; though he left it a bit later to let the others past him.... Hamilton well deserved his 5s penalty for blocking Ricciardo in the pit lane, so he can have no complaint whatsoever. Once again, Kimi left it until 2laps from the end to put in the fastest lap of the race. Is he taking the piss, not trying for the rest of the race, or is there something else afoot? __________________ Arguing with a intelligent person is hard; but arguing with a stupid person is impossible!

April 20th, 2017, 03:17 PM	#3116
pharoahegypt Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle England Posts: 4,492 Thanks: 10,177 Thanked 43,625 Times in 4,155 Posts	I imagined that McLaren-Honda were using this Indy race as a test to see if he'd be interested in moving to that series next season, rather than losing him to another F1 team where he'd almost surely be finishing higher than he is right now. I must admit I'd love him to have a few of those excuses as suggested above though, it would liven up the season no end.... Just hearing the team having to explain it to Sky or Ch4. __________________ Arguing with a intelligent person is hard; but arguing with a stupid person is impossible! Last edited by pharoahegypt; April 20th, 2017 at 05:01 PM..

April 29th, 2017, 01:11 PM	#3117
henryf Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 966 Thanks: 3,105 Thanked 20,144 Times in 941 Posts	Russia Qualifying Well, that was a real turn up for the books, I did not expect that result. Hamilton looked vulnerable and Raikkonen was a surprise. Front row lock for the first time in 8 years for Ferrari, I think. It will be interesting to see whether Raikkonen finishes up running rear guard for Vettel. It looks as though it is Ferrari's race to lose, though last season proves they can make tactical mistakes. On the other hand, Mercedes have made mistakes this season. I hope the race lives up to expectations. More excitement so far this season than the last 2 years put together.

April 30th, 2017, 12:36 PM	#3118
will101 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: California and Oregon Posts: 181 Thanks: 128,517 Thanked 1,456 Times in 178 Posts	* SPOILER ALERT * * SPOILER ALERT * For those who haven't watched the race yet, please skip this. Can someone verify for me that when Bottas passed Vettel at the start, that was the first pass for the lead this season that did not involve a pit stop? Which I believe is still a record for fewest on-track passes for the lead this far into the season.

April 16th, 2017, 10:34 PM	#3112
stockingclad Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: U K Posts: 206 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 1,450 Times in 187 Posts	Kimi is past his sell-by date and this was obvious last year. Ferrari need a good second driver if they are serious about a constructor title. I think Seb was instrumental in Ferrari retaining him. Bottas promised something special in qualifying, as well as the opening laps. But that faded and it was back to normal. Disappointing, but we did have a more entertaining race than usual.

April 20th, 2017, 02:38 PM	#3115
Hikarufan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Down under Posts: 399 Thanks: 68 Thanked 4,200 Times in 395 Posts	From sniff petrol... Following yesterday’s news that Fernando Alonso will miss the Monaco Grand Prix to race in the Indy 500, McLaren have given details of the other races the Spanish driver will sit out, and the reasons why. ‘Fernando has suddenly realised he is quite busy with other engagements this year,’ admitted senior McLaren spokesman, Señor MacLaren-Spohksman. ‘In fact, the more he’s driven the MCL32, the more commitments elsewhere he seems to have remembered.’ The team today confirmed that, fresh from his Indy experience, Alonso will also miss the Canadian Grand Prix because he’ll be driving in a WRC event in Sardinia, the Azerbaijan race because he’ll be driving in a NASCAR race in California, and the Austrian GP because he’ll be driving up the M6 to Stoke-on-Trent to see his old mate Peter Wilson which has been in the diary for ages and, sorry, he really can’t get out of it. Sources say Alonso will also miss the British Grand Prix because he has a friend’s wedding, the Hungarian Grand Prix because it’s Ruben Barichello’s 48 hour Dempsey & Makepeace marathon that weekend, and the Belgian Grand Prix because he really wants to watch the Belgian Grand Prix on telly. He will also sit out the Spanish Grand Prix because he has ‘a lot of friends coming in town’ that weekend. In total, Alonso is expected to miss 18 races in the 2017 season, or 19 if you include the Chinese race which he has already wiped from his mind. A replacement for the absent Spanish driver has yet to be confirmed. ‘Oh no, my mobile phone and iPad and all other means of communication have fallen off my yacht and into the sea,’ said Jenson Button, yesterday. ‘Oh look, here comes a carrier pigeon…’ he added.

April 30th, 2017, 01:36 PM	#3119
henryf Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 966 Thanks: 3,105 Thanked 20,144 Times in 941 Posts	That was one good race. I won't spoil it for anyone who has not seen it yet.

May 1st, 2017, 09:44 AM	#3120
Motorboater Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,335 Thanks: 41,570 Thanked 38,545 Times in 4,309 Posts	Are we done waiting for guys who haven't seen it to see it?