Current Politics in the United Kingdom - Page 214

**Mal Hombre** · June 26th, 2017, 04:53 PM

Yep,When They refurbished Buckingham Palace,They didn't just put cladding on it..

**Roubignol** · June 26th, 2017, 05:02 PM

Do we create a VEF bank account with signatures of all the members... to buy one of their properties?

Which one has the nicest garden?

**vinceprince** · June 26th, 2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xyzde69

Do we create a VEF bank account with signatures of all the members... to buy one of their properties?

Which one has the nicest garden?

La propriété, c'est le vol!

**haroldeye** · June 26th, 2017, 05:35 PM

Only said by those who don't own any.

**Roubignol** · June 26th, 2017, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by haroldeye

Only said by those who don't own any.

But be careful, this sentence doesn't mean what it seems to mean.

"For Proudhon, in a company, because they work collectively, the workers produce more than if they worked each one individually. An individual can not do the same work in ten hours as ten individuals in an hour. Collective strength in social work produces much more than individual strength. One hundred men can move a stone of several tons that an individual can never move even a hundred times more time. Yet the capitalist rewards each of his workers individually and thus "steals" this surplus value produced collectively. Private property is the appropriation by an individual of this collective work and is therefore a theft.

In fact Proudhon formulates a thesis, an antithesis, and ends up with a synthesis which is a kind of balance sheet. That is why he asserts that "property is theft" and at the same time devotes long pages to the defense of the small owner."

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon wanted a social revolution based on the economy and no violence was admitted.

In comparison, Karl Marx had no problem with violence.

**judy84** · June 26th, 2017, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I don't really care for the word "Remoaners",I may start referring to "Brexshitters"...

Ramoaner, come closer
Shut softly your watery eyes
The pangs of your sadness
Will pass as your senses will rise
For the flowers of the city
Though breathlike, get deathlike sometimes
And there's no use in tryin'
To deal with the dyin'
Though I cannot explain that in lines.

**vinceprince** · June 27th, 2017, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by haroldeye

Only said by those who don't own any.

We're all thieves it's just some have thieved a lot more than others.

**haroldeye** · June 27th, 2017, 07:15 AM

True, but then the definition always seems to be that anyone who has theived more than me must have it taken away.

My old Uncle Joe, who if he hadn't had to go down the pit at the age of 13 would have made a great university lecturer always reckoned that the fairest thing to do would be to collect all the money in the world together in one place and then share it equally. Then when he had spent his share he would repeat the collection and sharing phase. Always seemed a clever solution to me.

**vinceprince** · June 27th, 2017, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by haroldeye

True, but then the definition always seems to be that anyone who has theived more than me must have it taken away.

Then when he had spent his share he would repeat the collection and sharing phase. Always seemed a clever solution to me.

This is what the Royal Family is doing to fund the repair of their properties except they're collecting from everyone but only sharing among themselves. Clever indeed!

**Mal Hombre** · June 27th, 2017, 07:29 AM

That way,They can afford the good cladding..

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June 27th, 2017, 07:15 AM	#2138
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,715 Thanks: 113,479 Thanked 59,962 Times in 5,707 Posts	True, but then the definition always seems to be that anyone who has theived more than me must have it taken away. My old Uncle Joe, who if he hadn't had to go down the pit at the age of 13 would have made a great university lecturer always reckoned that the fairest thing to do would be to collect all the money in the world together in one place and then share it equally. Then when he had spent his share he would repeat the collection and sharing phase. Always seemed a clever solution to me.