Things Noticeable this week

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by palo5

Don't be harsh on yourself. You only have about 1% of the world's population but do well in world sport

The fact is that after some great British successes over the years we have bred an army of couch potatoes who expect masses of medals at every event. There will always be peaks and troughs, cheer up folks it's not the end of the world as we all know it.

Originally Posted by Greenman

virtually cast-iron medal chances thwarted due to nerves or sloppy performances.

Surely a cast-iron medal is worth less than a bronze medal

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

Surely a cast-iron medal is worth less than a bronze medal

Hehehehe!

[Devius]

Originally Posted by Greenman

I do think it is a bit odd that Justin Gatlin's agent Renaldo Nehamiah thinks it was disrespectful of Steve Cram to speak out against him and for the Britsh crowd to boo him in the 100m - there is a good reason for that two drug bans for starters and those of you who remember Nehamiah will recall that he was once caught doping too, so I would say we had every right to show our disgust at a two-time drug cheat. WADA the governing body have a lot to answer for.

Letting athletes like Justin Gatlin perform again, even if he has "served his time" will kill the sport. Why would I go to a tournament or watch it on TV, knowing a percentage of the competitors are "reformed" cheats whose bodies might still be benefiting from the effects of steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs years after the point at which they were taken:

Drug cheats in sport could benefit 'for decades', scientists find:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/29510575

[SanteeFats]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

The fact is that after some great British successes over the years we have bred an army of couch potatoes who expect masses of medals at every event. There will always be peaks and troughs, cheer up folks it's not the end of the world as we all know it.

Surely a cast-iron medal is worth less than a bronze medal

That would depend on the weight difference between the two and the recycling prices at the time.

[Devius]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

cheer up folks it's not the end of the world as we all know it.

Er...have you checked out the latest post on the Donald Trump thread?

[anothercustom]

Originally Posted by Greenman

Have you noticed that when we get to a major sporting event it doesn't matter how good the individual has been throughout the year OR team has done in other minor events we always croak...

Great Britain finished third in the medal table at the 2012 Olympics, second in 2016.

[anothercustom]

Originally Posted by rewbear

there should be 4 groups of 8 teams, randomly drawn

It would take too long and some of the later group matches would just be played out with nothing at stake. Also, I'm certain the likes of the Premier League and La Liga would lobby their football associations. They want their "assets" to be fresh and fit for their day jobs. Seeding is earned and therefore relevant. Plus, you wouldn't want, for example, Germany, Argentina, Spain and Italy drawn in the same group. Personally, I think it should be a 32 team knock-out tournament based on seedings i.e. the top seed plays bottom seed and so on.

[bloke57]

What's noticeable this week is what's not noticeable.

What happened to news about Syria? It's completely off the agenda.

It is such a mess, no-one understands it and all nations are sullied by it. The whole sorry mess appears to have been swept under the carpet - here anyway.

[Puhbear69]

Than we will starting with some older cases:


About two months after the tragedy:

BBC:

Grenfell Tower: A shadow over the capital

Drive over London's Westway, and Grenfell Tower demands your attention. It is a black nail that has been hammered into the nation's conscience.

In its shadow, the faces of the missing are everywhere - on lamp-posts and bus shelters, railings and walls. Unblinking they stare, it is hard to hold their accusatory gaze.

A month after this appalling tragedy, we still don't know exactly who or how many people died at Grenfell Tower. Perhaps that tells us something about our fractured relationship with the people who lived there. .....

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40592626

The BBC shows in this report about the social tracks, but no word about the prosecutions of the justice.

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The Independent:

Grenfell: CPS says criminal charges with life terms could be brought against anyone found culpable

'There are a whole raft of offences against both individuals and possibly companies that we could be looking at depending what the evidence shows'

The country’s most senior prosecutor has said that individuals found responsible for the Grenfell Tower fire could face lengthy prison sentences.

Alison Saunders, the Director of Public Prosecutions, said that manslaughter by gross negligence were among the offences the Crown will consider if police uncover sufficient evidence, as she vowed to do everything in her power to see justice done for the victims.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7881466.html

The Independent matches my search, but it is to unspecific for my taste ("... we don't know any concrete stuff ..."). Only threats of the prosecutors doesn't help the case, if there isn't any action.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by bloke57

What's noticeable this week is what's not noticeable.

What happened to news about Syria? It's completely off the agenda.

It is such a mess, no-one understands it and all nations are sullied by it. The whole sorry mess appears to have been swept under the carpet - here anyway.

What happened is that the Western-backed terrorists are facing their final hours, so no news is better than bad news.