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January 4th, 2016, 04:28 PM | #2091 | ||
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You're a skeptic about debunking conspiracy theories, but not about the conspiracy theories themselves. That's a logical failure. To make a case for any causality, you must have some evidence for it, which the conspiracy theorists don't have. Last edited by deepsepia; January 4th, 2016 at 04:43 PM.. |
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January 4th, 2016, 04:50 PM | #2092 | |
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I think it might be fair to say that San Bernadino was a minor conspiracy as planning and obtaining the hardware were all considerations. I agree that the links to ISIL are rather thin, but so what? This sounds good on a TV news report - and that's what this is all about really. |
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January 4th, 2016, 05:02 PM | #2093 | |
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All we have are a web of associations-- his time in Russia, for example; a person could make what might seem to them to be the "perfectly reasonable deductions from obvious evidence" that he was a Soviet agent . . .but in fact there's no evidence of that at all. Only evidence is evidence. Associations can lead you to look for evidence . . . for example, the Farook's posting of allegiance to Islamic State-- makes you want to look to see if they were in communication with IS; but you have to then find some evidence of that. Similarly, James Holmes appears to have been fixated on Batman; that does not prove that Bob Kane planned the Aurora shootings: Association ≠ causation. |
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January 4th, 2016, 10:52 PM | #2094 | |
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January 4th, 2016, 11:13 PM | #2095 | ||
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John Wilkes Booth really is a conspiracy. The Gunpowder Plot really is a conspiracy. 9/11 really is a (al Qaeda) conspiracy. The Paris attack really is a conspiracy. The Rajneeshis who poisoned salad bars in The Dalles really were a conspiracy. The Aum Shinrikyo really were a conspiracy. In recent times, the most fascinatingly odd and not-quite-resolved conspiracy is the 2001 anthrax attacks ("Amerithrax"). The scale and complexity of the investigation are essentially without parallel, because from the start there was no "official version" Quote:
Subsequent to Ivins death, the US National Academy of Sciences reviewed the genetic analysis linking Ivins to the anthrax-- they found it weaker than claimed. About the best you can say is "Ivins probably did it, but we can't really be sure". Oh, and here's another mystery: Putin, Kadyrov, and the murder of Nemtsov: Putin's missing fortnight. You may remember the murder of a Kremlin critic in Moscow, unconvincingly linked to Putin's Chechen ally Kadyrov. What you probably don't remember is that Putin then went missing for an extended period. Where was he? What was happening? Why was Nemtsov killed? By whom? Any and all guesses are still fair game, because basically we know nothing. Last edited by deepsepia; January 4th, 2016 at 11:35 PM.. |
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April 2nd, 2016, 02:18 PM | #2096 |
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I believe Lee Harvey Oswald was not the sole person who killed President Kennedy. I believe our own American government( the Black-OPS) division did it and Oswald was the fall guy. Now why would the U.S. government want to kill Kennedy, because he prevented Russia from putting atomic missiles on Cuban soil. The Joint Chiefs wanted a conflict with Cuba, so they could attack and conquer Cuba and annex it to America.
So many of the members say that the moon landing were faked. I believe they were not. Why would the U.S. government spend billions of dollars on the early Mercury and Apollo missions just to fake the moon landings. This is ludicrous. On one of the missions to the moon one of the astronauts dropped a geologists hammer and a feather and they hit the surface of the moon at exactly the same time proving what Galileo said about gravity on falling objects. Gravity affect all masses the same. If two objects are in a near vacuum, they will fall at the same rate no matter what their weight or mass. In the 1960's we did not have computers that could be used for making special visual effects like we do now, and animation which was mostly used on t.v. shows and movies could not show that scene from the moon. There are questions about whether humans built the great pyramids of Egypt. Humans did build them. Humans from the past had just as much ingenuity as we do now, and they had architects, mathematicians, and engineers, just like we do now, and they did not need computers to do the calculations. Just brain power and parchment to write on. |
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The only "conspiracy" that I believe in is TWA 800. Far too many eyewitnesses report seeing multiple "missiles" ascend to the 747. The Feds may have fooled with the evidence (placing some wreckage in different positions from where it actually landed), the Feds went out of their way to discredit the eyewitnesses, bogus CIA aircraft break-up animation. No explanation or analysis of damage to the upper surface of the port wing which shattered in flight precipitating TWA 800s roll to port and eventual break up.
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April 6th, 2016, 05:39 AM | #2098 | |
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The wreckage the plane was recovered and assembled-- we have %95 of it. There's zero sign of a missile strike; missiles strikes are not ambiguous things. |
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April 6th, 2016, 08:40 AM | #2099 | |
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I've studied airline accidents since 1984 and this documentary really opened my eyes. A fuel tank explosion in my view did not cause the crash. Something shattered the left wing which precipitated a general break-up of the airframe causing the tank to explode. As I said earlier I'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories at all. This one however is the only one in which made me look twice. Last edited by Norkles; April 6th, 2016 at 08:40 AM.. Reason: sp. |
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April 6th, 2016, 03:29 PM | #2100 | |
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The many failings of Stalcup's documentary have been gone over many times. It's junk for those who can't be bothered to read the work of experts. You might as well get your news from the X Files. |
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