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Old 07-27-2008, 09:10 PM   #21
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I'm wondering what you intend as result of identification. Is it just a CSV file, a simple database, or something more functional similar to projects BentBastard, Grendel, and Tuffy were (still are?) working on?
There is a lot of useful info on VEF. Unfortunately most of it is not in an easy-to-use format. It's great for someone to share what he knows and it would be equally great if other people could copy and import the data into a database, without the need to type all the data again. That is why I think CSV format is important.

The CSV file(s) would contain all the "raw data" needed to create a comprehensive CC database. Think of the CSV data as bricks and the CC database as a house. Before we try to build a house we should make sure we have enough bricks. I'm not sure that we do at the moment.

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Yes, they are. I'm working on filling some gaps on the 'CG's in your list atm. BTW, CCC named it 'Studio' on their website. I would call it 'category'.
I agree category is better and I have changed the CSV formats in post #103 accordingly.

Note that I have added a . in front of Type, e.g. .A is now the first field for actress info. One reason for this change is that if this field ever needs to be deleted, then ".A, " would be replaced with "" (i.e. nothing). With the old value of just A, it is possible that replacing "A, " with nothing would delete some useful data. There are other reasons for adding the dot.

I have added a Comments field to both .P and .A as the last field. For .A I have also added as Special Action field. This is intended for A (anal), DP, DPP, DAP and GS action. Thoughts on this are welcome.
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Please reserve one Prefix for the RDX_Sheets

I think many entries can be exchanged with minimal modifications.

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We could use .R as first field for rodox.com data. But that is a job for another day!
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I'm more familiar with the 'month/year' file naming convention of the early sets, and I don't know if the 'set' naming was or is still "official". All I can say is that
set01 ~ 1296a
set02 ~ 1296b
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set99 ~ 1197i
set100 ~ 1197j,
next set is cc13a - the file naming convention still in use.

The sets starting with "5" are corresponding with magazines published 2002 and later by Silwa / ZBF after CCC stopped distributing magazines themselves.
Yes, I think that set01 should be changed to 1296a, etc.

Is there a full list anywhere of sets ~ dates?
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Additions to post #79.

icu, would you please be so kind to add them?

.P, 13a, CG, Big Black Bone, EX23
.P, 15e, CG, Black Knight, CC106
.P, 17f, CG, Photo Sexsation, CC100
.P, 18e, CG, Tiny Tove II(website), Siamese Supper(MI 80), CC102
.P, 20d, CG, Coming Home, CC115
.P, 21e, CG, Pen-Pal Visit, CC101
.P, 23e, CG, Hot Shots, TS10
.P, 25x, CG, Erotic Evening, CC113
.P, 26x, CG, Private Show, BC17
.P, 28x, CG, Every Woman's Dream, BC12
.P, 32x, CG, Star Service, CC114
.P, 36x, CG, A Hole New Experience, TS09
.P, 50x, CG, Golden Party, SB25
.P, 51x, CG, French Tricks, CC120
.P, 56x, CG, Hotel Tropical, RO01
.P, 58x, CG, Wheel Of Love, AS77 [first published as Anal Roulette, AS47]
.P, 60x, CG, Big Black Delivery, RO03
.P, 68x, CG, The Stripper, EX15
.P, 69x, CG, Monster Member, EX10
.P, 70x, CG, Maid Service, RO09
.P, 71x, CG, Spanish Fly, TS31
.P, 73x, CG, Armchair Amour, RO10
.P, 76x, CG, Fashion Models?, EX08
.P, 79x, CG, Candid Camera, TS14
.P, 80x, CG, Sexy Partners, CC129
.P, 81x, CG, Five Vaginas, LL13
.P, 82x, CG, Maid in Heaven, TS18
.P, 86x, CG, Horny Afternoon, CC126
.P, 91x, CG, Midnight Special, RO08
.P, 93x, CG, Dirty Disco, RO07
.P, 94x, CG, Spies That Came In From The Cold, EX07
.P, 97x, CG, Two Dirty Sisters, TS32
.P, 101x, CG, Lucky Lechers, BC26
.P, 104x, CG, Fuck Film Fun, RO20
.P, 105x, CG, A Pair Of Dirty Tricks, CC123
.P, 106x, CG, Sex Athletes, RO22
.P, 107x, CG, Dirty Dive Bar, BC21
.P, 108x, CG, Pussy Posers, RO06
.P, 109x, CG, Cunny Cure, CC127
.P, 110x, CG, Arsehole Party, AS44
.P, 111x, CG, Black Blind Date, EX09
.P, 112x, CG, Disco Desire, RO15
.P, 114x, CG, Black Jack, RO06
.P, 115x, CG, Randy Meeting, EX26
.P, 117x, CG, House Of Sin, EX24
.P, 119x, CG, A Whore's Diary, AS19
.P, 120x, CG, Intimate Massage, EX23
.P, 123x, CG, Photo Fuckers, EX20
.P, 128x, CG, Lucky Albert, RO15
.P, 129x, CG, Fantasy Fuckers, EX22
.P, 130x, CG, Naughty Games, RO11

Note: This is a 'quick and dirty' contribution to fill the gaps in the 'CG' list. I don't have time to verify all data or to check spelling, etc. at the moment.
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I have added a Comments field to both .P and .A as the last field. For .A I have also added as Special Action field. This is intended for A (anal), DP, DPP, DAP and GS action. Thoughts on this are welcome.
I'm pretty sure that all projects to create a comprehensive database (except qpdb) that were started on VEF failed or are not finished yet because they were too ambitious and overloaded. The more items you add the more info (from rare sources) and - above all - time! is needed to fill the fields. I only would like to add info on films and videos to the database: loop title, corresponding film, VHS 30 and VHS 60. As far as I'm concerned I'm not interested in 'Special Action', 'Comments' and the like. Some suggestions in the past even included info on actresses' nationality, birth place and date.

What I was looking for from the beginning was a reliable reference between loop/clip titles and magazine stories completed with references to corresponding CC photo sets and rdx scan sets. And that's all I'm willing to contribute to. I don't believe in an 'all inclusive' or 'all in one' CC database. I already wasted too much time in such projects that never came to an end. That's why I asked in post #116.

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Is there a full list anywhere of sets ~ dates?
I only saw some info sheets posted by Quantum being named 'story title_set##.pdf'. But I can provide a complete list of 'month/year' file names, with corresponding categories and story titles.
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Additions to post #79.
Thanks Al Gebra, what a wonderful update. There are only a few Gaps left up to #130 .

Are these also 'CG' sets ?
.P, 14i, , Remember My Member, , CC100.6,
.P, 16f, , Classroom Capers, , TS3.4,
.P, 19d, , Pissicato Italiano, , SB26.2,

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Large cover pics for the sold mags are still on jaybirdz.com website (...)
(...) You'll need to enter the URLs by hand for the others.
Thanks for the Hint, I think I'll take a second look...

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(...) What I was looking for from the beginning was a reliable reference between loop/clip titles and magazine stories completed with references to corresponding CC photo sets and rdx scan sets. And that's all I'm willing to contribute to.(...)
I think it's useful to fill the lists for the next days to get a minimal standard for tests.
I started using 'qpdb' these days and I like it. It was a great Idea from the Author. It is easy to use and free.
Parallel I'm thinking about a way to import the new Format simple to 'qpdb' like Updates .
Perhaps it's possible to save a Page and extract the Entries from it.

Sheets : All deleted


@rob4 : I can help you to re-format your work to the new Syntax, you don't need to edit each item.

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wow you boys have been busy! when i started the thread i never thought it would generate so much interest.

it'll take me a while to get my head around all this information but i think it was a good idea to get everything together - too many posts to hit the 'thanks' button on them all - so thanks to everyone for their efforts.

the only concern i have is that the everyday users of the forum will not want to go through all this extra info to get to the model id sheets... which is my main concern.
i'll get round this by giving them a second post (non-sticky) in the id area with a link to this thread also - i know that duplication is frowned on but i think its justified for this project.

i've already prepared some id sheets using my old "rdx, etc" coding so please have patience until i phase that out.

also i'll see if grendel is still posting i'm sure he would be able to make a good contribution.
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apropos, we shall draw to a close (to beginning) through 2,5 years
don't worry the first posts were to get a feeler of how much info can be handled at once - i'll increase the rate of posting sheets once we have settled down with agreeing formats etc.

2-5 years is ok - i'm quite young and have time on my side and we have to remember that kk have not published all their material so the unidentified will probably grow faster than the identified at first - i doubt we will ever id everyone eg i questioned dave wells about patti murray and he thinks she only ever did the two photo shoots with him and no movies so she will probably never have a bgafd entry - also bgafd delete model photos at the models request - there will be others like this...
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