Let me explain the current political situation

[RjG57]

Originally Posted by theequestrian

Now on a much more serious note.
We are voracious.
We are a hunger that cannot be satisfied.
And we will suck the Earth dry of all it contains if you don't stop us.

Where is the plague (black death, Bubonic) when you need it.

[theequestrian]

Good thought, but unfortunately The Plague actually has way too low a mortality rate. It would leave enough of us to re-breed leading - eventually - to further mayhem.

Now, the Plague crossed with The Andromeda Strain...and The Umbrella Virus...and Q Fever...

[bjadoo]

Originally Posted by MisterMacky

Nobody expects the middle and poor working class of U.S. to survive.

I am sure one of these fine people will rise up to save the middle and poor working class from their problems.

Rick Satan Santorum??? Are you shitting me?? LOL!! ROFL!!!

[MisterMacky]

Originally Posted by bjadoo

Rick Satan Santorum??? Are you shitting me?? LOL!! ROFL!!!

Do I sense a rebuke?

If you are dissatisfied with political figures I had selected, I am willing to accommodate by choosing, at random, other political figures who are as equally inept/corrupt as those originally chosen.

I have absolutely no respect for any American politician. None whatsoever.
I have scant respect for my fellow Americans for reasons of their political, social, and scientific acumen. I am not a genius. I am still in school working towards my first degree. There are highly educated persons on this very forum with a keen instinct for English and communications who could grind me into powder.

But it doesn't take a goddamn genius to realize that accept for book of Kings, the entirely of the Bible is fake, that global warming is real, that evolution is an incontestable fact, that lobbyists are scum of the earth, and that no matter no matter how complacent, apathetic, disinterested, or level of religious ferver is invested, corporations are more powerful by magnitude Death Star super laser to a child's Wal-mart grade plastic water pistol than American citizens state of consciousness and will power.


How about these:

[theequestrian]

The problem with the US government lies much less with the individuals than with the electoral process itself. Because the length of politicians terms are relatively short they are ALWAYS electioneering to one degree or another. This leads towards an overwhelming tendency for short term solutions. A politician has to DO something/anything for his constituents so they'll remember him at election time. He doesn't have to do anything constructive or beneficial, he just has to do something. Now while said politician should be brainstorming in Commitee seeking a long term solution for -insert whatever you like here - he is instead funneled by the system into proposing unpassable legislation (Like Cutting off federal funds to Animal Shelters because they promote birth control) or getting a stoplight installed in his district on a street that doesn't need one. Add to this the corruption inherent to all forms of government and you have an untenable system. And let us not forget the gratest current problem: Two ideologically entrenched, diametrically opposed political factions who are much more concerned with crucifying each other than with helping the people who elected them.

[theequestrian]

MisterMackey your photo montage of infamy has the beginnings of a really good joke:

A symbol of corporate America, a nazi child molester and 6 schmucks walk into a bar...

[MisterMacky]

Originally Posted by theequestrian

MisterMackey your photo montage of infamy has the beginnings of a really good joke:

A symbol of corporate America, a nazi child molester and 6 schmucks walk into a bar...

[TCO95]

Originally Posted by palo5

You don't understand, Comrade. It isn't Communism or any other system that matters - it is that The Party controls things. Is this not clear?

So join it!

I don't quite understand your point? The party and its politics are one. In a democracy, the parties present their platforms and policies and the people choose. In communism there is only one party and the people are told what the party wants.

So join it! If you are referring to me joining a communist party then all I can say is "FAT F**KING CHANCE". I want to lessen the government's control over my life not extend it. I do not, and will never, want to live in a nanny state. Absolute control corrupts absolutely, give a politician control over your life and you will never be so completely screwed.
You know what you call a ship load of politicians on the ocean floor? A good start.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by TCO95

I don't quite understand your point? The party and its politics are one. In a democracy, the parties present their platforms and policies and the people choose. In communism there is only one party and the people are told what the party wants.

So join it! If you are referring to me joining a communist party then all I can say is "FAT F**KING CHANCE". I want to lessen the government's control over my life not extend it. I do not, and will never, want to live in a nanny state. Absolute control corrupts absolutely, give a politician control over your life and you will never be so completely screwed.
You know what you call a ship load of politicians on the ocean floor? A good start.

No, this is not what communism is about. Communism has actually never been realized. A communist society is a classless society of free associated individuals who are owners of their own productive forces and products. We're not talking about a party or bureaucracy controlling everything but the cooperating people. This is people's democracy based on direct participation at any time. Do you remember any state based on such principles in the history of mankind? Me neither. A communist society should be one where people are not forced to work and remain wage slaves but to love their jobs, to feel creative and accomplish useful work, appropriate to their own skills and interests. They should also have enough free time to pursue other interests like reading and enriching their intellects in any kind. This of course does not imply barbecue parties, wasting time on sports games on tv or boozing. This is how people are kept away from important issues.
The so-called communist countries of the 20th century were not even close to communism. They had an economy based on market principles with a party and its bureaucracy controlling everything. What emerged from this system was an elite which is the ultimate opposite to every communist notion. Socialism is the transitional period between capitalism and communism and these countries were not even that. They had specific traits of a socialist state but just as the final stage known as communism, socialism is based on direct democracy, production in the hands of workers and total free speech as well. And btw, communism means abolition of the state. The Soviet Union for example was the ultimate nanny super state. That's NOT communism.
And let's take a look at our western so-called liberal democracies. Your only chance to influence this political system happens once in 4 years. But, wow, what you can do is yelling at the evil government, organize protests but, oops, you can't do anything about it. And the guys in charge have 4 years to influence your opinion through the media, so you can vote them another time and get screwed again. Besides, the political discourse is kept very limited, especially in the US where you have a two-party system. Of course, there are a couple of more parties but they're kept low in a very clever way. If you want to candidate for presidency, you need money. Lots of money. Huge corporations donations and effective public relations with simple and dumb slogans like "Yes We Can" make you become a president, so you can serve their financial interests during your office.
I like how Paul Goodman nailed the point regarding freedom of speech and democratic participation in America (and it's not too different here either):

"In America you can say anything you want - as long as it doesn't have any effect"

[theequestrian]

Communalism (the proper, never used name for communism) is an Economic system.
Socialism is the Political system.
While Socialist governments usually employ some form of Communist economic policy, they can and do exist independently of each other. Saying that a countrys government is 'communist' is like calling the US form of government 'capitalist'.