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April 28th, 2011, 10:05 PM | #21 |
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I have to agree with Loosegoose.
Even in the old days there was some nasty stuff about and I doubt many performers enjoyed doing the more normal stuff. These days there is just a lot of it about, therefore more of the degrading stuff. |
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April 29th, 2011, 01:00 AM | #22 |
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NO - without women they have nothing
There was erotica/porn - 70s/80s which was largely fantasy/comedy/acting
with a bit of sex thrown in 90s/early 00s - Then there was modern gonzo which initially regained peoples interest in porn by simply making scenes as opposed to full films where you wore out the fast forward button.Some were smart enough to make them into short vignettes Now - theres the low budget amateurs who call themselves producers who know how to fuck,know how to point a camera and not much else.They typically will use your escort/pros/adult industry insiders so its nothing more than hired for 2 hours suck/fuck/done...nothing different from scene a to scene z Where the mysogynistic mode enters the fray is its not that they hate women but that their product as with most porn is consumed by your typical single emasculated male. What better way than to attract their attention than to show them a scene where their once again IN CHARGE....its all contrived nonsense Personally i think its all a load of complete bollocks because its cheap to make and all porn sells the same.In this market where most of us dont pay that is never going to change. As more than few have said its easy to come to the conclusion that the producer/performers are simply getting the punter to pay for the sexual adventures. Its takes creative skill and a lot more money than any of these producers will ever spend to make an erotic porn film so anyone pining for that should simply turn about and forget about modern porn Last edited by buttsie; April 29th, 2011 at 03:38 AM.. |
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April 29th, 2011, 02:00 AM | #23 |
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I'm not going to repeat what the others have said already because they've completely covered me. I don't touch modern US b-g porn; it's just too disgusting to be erotic. Gapes and slaps, chokes and spitting. Eeeeowww. Euro is better, although you still have to to pick carefully.
Most of my porn consumption of new stuff therefore is instead taken up by girl-girl. And therein lies the paradox: as awful as b-g has become, girl-girl has become absolutely amazing. Europe still leads the way with Viv Thomas and the others who use the amazing East European babes to make quality lipstick, while the US is actually producing some quite decent "genuine lesbian" fare. So, bizarrely, the same girls (say, Blue Angel) who get reamed in the most disgusting manner in their b-g scenes then go on and make THE most beautifully tender lesbo ones, where you'd swear they have massive orgasms. They get spat at and choked one moment, then french kiss another girl for 15 minutes. And both products sell like hotcakes. Explain. Imperator |
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April 29th, 2011, 03:02 AM | #24 | |
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There's simply much more competition on the b/g market than on the lesbo market. Thus the race where companies compete for shock value, because only the loudest voice will be heard by today's numbed consumers. Only the most flashy stuff will sell copies. But that is a general sign of our times: sensory overkill in all aspects, life is just faster and more devoid of emotion than it used to be. That surely numbs people, so the bar has to be raised higher and higher, just like a drug addict has to boost his dosage over time to gain any effect. As for the contrast to lesbian porn, I think studios do know their audience consists of guys who are frustrated with b/g stuff. Violence between women wouldn't fit as well as into the b/g scene, where male consumers want their daily fix of brain blowing orgasm. |
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April 29th, 2011, 03:27 AM | #25 |
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It's 4am here plus the Draft is splitting my attention for my wording to make sense
The explanation I sought is for the demand, not the supply. The girls will do what they get paid for, as you point out. But the demand being polarised between very aggressive b-g and very sensual g-g is odd at first sight. After all both markets are dominated by men. I guess it's just a sign of the overspecialisation of today's porn. There is no "mainstream" any more, just "specialty". I do wonder why there is no "specialty" demand for tasteful b-g (tasteful =/= soft, mind you) though. Imperator |
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April 29th, 2011, 04:18 PM | #26 |
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For lesbo stuff, you can't beat the two Australian companies. "real" girls, not strippers or whores. They do more than just go through the motions too. Like sniffing the other girl's panties when they take them off, or commenting on how wet she got her fingers, stuff like that. I get the idea that for American lesbian stuff, its like for the boy-girl in that the director ticks off a list of what he wants to see them do and they mechanically go through the routine. The Aussie stuff at least convinces you that the girls are actually into their partner.
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I've tried to get into the abbywinters stuff, but I'm too much of a male pig to forsake the Central European goddesses that Viv Thomas and his ilk provide us. OK, so they're not genuine lesbians, but do I care? As long as there are no toys and the girls take their time with foreplay and fool me into believing that they have thunderous orgasms, I'm a happy male pig
The only abbywinters scenes that I have enjoyed were the ones with Angela White, and then only because she has the personality to make me overlook her weight issues (have I mentioned that I'm a pig yet? Thought so) |
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On another note, rather than porn hating women (they are just a commodity to be exploited), porn women hate themselves. I once attended a n0-condom gangbang where about 30 guys were having two girls. One of the guys had brought a female friend who just wanted to watch. She was a lot better looking than the ones who were getting banged, so i talked to her to feel out whether she might actually be interested in more than watching. I asked her if she wanted to join the other girls, and she said "I could never hate my pussy that much". To let the whole world watch you get used like porn girls do, you have to have some personal issues that would let you do that in the first place.
I remember in that documentary "Fallen Angels" Kristarra Barrington talking about she had screwed 150 guys before she got out of high school. She had this look of hate on her face when she said it. I still haven't figured that one out. |
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This whole thread reminds me of an article I read a few years back on that insipid movie Twilight and the contrast between boys and girls. The gist of the article was young girls watch that movie and get the ideal emotional non-physical relationship aspect where the guy just wants to watch you sleep and admire your beauty. Meanwhile young boys are watching hardcore choke fuck anal slam porn and think that is how women want it. It want on to state that those two are going to crash into each other with dire results in the next few years when they go out into the world.
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As far as how it will affect the actual youth of today, when a young guy actually gets a girlfriend, he either: A) quickly learns how women want to be treated, or B) simply remains a douchebag, probably for life. What's sad is that there are damaged women who will settle for a guy who chose option B.
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