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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer, I mean prefer not own
Apple 40 46.51%
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Old July 25th, 2017, 02:59 PM   #11
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I'm a Western Digital user.

Edit: Actually the red ones!
I have a WD 5TB. Works very well. Recommended

Just ordered another from Germany. Only €134,- including postage. Locally it would have cost over €200,-
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I have a WD 5TB. Works very well. Recommended

Just ordered another from Germany. Only €134,- including postage. Locally it would have cost over €200,-


Why such a difference of price?
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You can actually try it from a memory stick..

You don't need to install it or uninstall your existing OS. Download the ISO file, stick it on a pen drive and boot from it.

It doesn't run as fast as the "normal" installation on a hard-drive but it is fully-functional and runs OK. Also, al lot of folks install Ubuntu and run as double-boot system. Useful if anyone wants to give it a try without committing to it.
Also enables you to snoop on someone's pc without leaving any trace, or load inappropriate files on their computer without anybody being able to find out it was you. Just boot the OS from the memory stick, and away you go, look at/transfer any files you like on the hard-drive.

I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, I'm just saying you COULD...........

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Why such a difference of price?
I think because Germany is more competitive, particularly for electronics. So it's always worth checking prices online

Sometimes price differences can be even more astonishing than that, even among the amazons. Some years ago I was looking for an economics textbook, written by an American, printed and made in America. Amazon.com wanted $130,- for it, amazon.co.uk didn't have it, and amazon.de sold it to me for €35,-

You'd think prices would be comparable if you're buying from the same company, but as you can see, that's not always the case
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To answer the original question, Microsoft.

Apple have a policy of total control freakery. You can only run "their" operating system on their hardware unless you hack it, even though a Mac is just a PC, but in a shiny box that looks pretty. If you want to develop for one of their phones, you have to buy a licence from them in order to put the application you have written onto your own phone, and said licence costs about £50 (at least, it did when I bought one eight or so years back) and after the one year subscription runs out, your application that you wrote and they graciously allowed you to install on your own phone, stops working unless you pay them for another year. Absurd and controlling. To interface between my iphone and my mac mini I had to use this appalling software called "itunes" which made me want to kill someone, probably whichever person in apple management allowed this thing to be released to the public. They want to get you ensnared in their ecosystem - desktop / laptop, phone, OS, applications. It's awful. And people say "it just works", well, maybe, if by "just" you mean "barely".

I call it "their" operating system as ultimately OSX is a port of BSD Unix, it was not an original work. I didn't think it was possible to do a bad port of BSD, until I got my Mac mini home from the shop.

Professionally, I develop for Windows and Linux and I run both OS at home (debian is my preferred Linux distro). I complain about Microsoft a lot, both dealing with them and programming applications for their operating system (people I'm friends with on facebook will be used to my long technical rants about the Windows API, even if they don't understand them), but even so I'll take Windows any day over OSX.
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It's awful. And people say "it just works", well, maybe, if by "just" you mean "barely".
Then why do I have nothing but a hassle free and pleasant experience
I couldn't care less if Apple were control freaks , as long as the product does what it's supposed to day in day out for hours on end.
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Then why do I have nothing but a hassle free and pleasant experience
Because you only use your Mac for emails and watching porn

But you can't use an over-priced, drugged-up artsy hippie toy for serious work like the rest of us are occupied with
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Because you only use your Mac for emails and watching porn

But you can't use an over-priced, drugged-up artsy hippie toy for serious work like the rest of us are occupied with



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So to pass the time thought I'd do some work on my computer, ripping DVD's and converting them into MOV files so they can be played on the TV.

At the same time I had iTunes running and was playing a game called Governor of Poker, my iMac didn't even stall, cough, burp .... had I been using Windows the thing would have keeled over and died
Cough, Coug
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Also enables you to snoop on someone's pc without leaving any trace, or load inappropriate files on their computer without anybody being able to find out it was you.


So that,s how that stuff got there!


"Honest m'lud, an Ubuntu user did it and ran away!"

That's a hell of a defence.
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Cough, Coug

Sorry to say, but you are confirming what Palo5 wrote about you.

Ripping DVD, listening music and playing game...
An average PC that costs 700 $ do the same jobs without any trouble when it's in wise hands.
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