Communism. Good or bad. What do you really know about Communism?

[Mal Hombre]

The Romans were intensely superstitious They managed to build the Colosseum....

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by palo5

Actually, communism means a community of equals, more or less. Extremely difficult to achieve, but it's a deathless ideal

It's a romantic ideal.

BTW who has listened of the city called Auroville in India built in a desert in 1968 ?
Isn't it a peaceful Communist looking test ?

They built it to live without money, without racism, opened to any nations, no segregation, no exploitation, no specific religion, etc...

Why don't we request to have the right to create such cities in our Western nations ?

That could be like metastasis of love and friendship all around the world.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

They built it to live without money, without racism, opened to any nations, no segregation, no exploitation, no specific religion, etc...

Why don't we request to have the right to create such cities in our Western nations ?

I'll throw this out there,

Get , dunno, 10,000 people with your train of thought,

They can chose where their hippie community can settle, maybe the panel of experts can chose the location and then start living like that ...... But, I propose when they do they take not a single item of any sort that was invented by the west, new or old., in fact they can't even get there using cars, trains, planes, busses, nothing ....... just to get off to a good start and see how serious they are once they arrive.

I'd love to see the end result

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

None of them try to tell me what I may say or not say, or what to draw or not draw, or what books I may read or not read.

I'm sorry to tell you that you lie to yourself.
Your billionaires daily tell you indirectly, how hard you have to work or to take advantage of weaker people to live properly thanks to the value they give to money.
They think you are too expensive ? They relocate your job abroad and if you don't get enough potential to come back on your feet, you are sent on the margin of the society.

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

This would not be the case with Communists, who would be interfering with my private life via the secret police, in order that everyone remain "equal".

That's typical Capitalist lobotomy that has corrupted your brain.

By definition, Communist goal only is to abolish the exploitation of the man by the man. Nothing else. Please read Communist constitutions.
They are fast to read and easy to understand.

I know that you defend the right to exploit people and animals. That's your right. But it seems legitimate that egalitarian thinking people want to thwart your desire in the way to live in a less brutal world.

There are at least two ways to fight unegalitarian people :

1) like Gandhi. He said he never would use force and was ready to be killed by unfair people.
2) like Stalin. He took unegalitarian people and send them to build their nation in Siberian desert with a showel.

Just think now. You are now Bowlingreen, First Secretary of USSR.
How would you have behaved if you had to manage this country after a terrible revolution won against unegalitarian people ?
Like Stalin or like Gandhi ?

[Wendigo]

..... are we there yet?





I only come here for a laugh as your ideas seem to change every day as you move further away from reality

[Mal Hombre]

No one has ever voted for communism,It has always been imposed by force and everywhere that it has been imposed it has failed.Back in the Middle Ages when this thread started,I said that communism is fine among a group of like minded people but it cannot work on a national level.This has been proved time and time again,As a theory,Phrenology has better record.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

I only come here for .........

..... I come here hoping to get a free Hamburger

And laugh at this while chomping down that triple beef, bacon and cheese delight



I have never heard so many different excuses and reasons on why not just Communism, but anything for that matter on why something has failed as dismally as Communism did and still see a need to force it to work.

I really do want a pure Communist State set up, just so we can sit back and say ... "See, I told you you can't cure cancer (Capitalist Fault BTW ) in a hippie commune using herbs"

[bowlinggreen]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

I really do want a pure Communist State set up, just so we can sit back and say ... "See, I told you you can't cure cancer (Capitalist Fault BTW ) in a hippie commune using herbs"

I concur. We should fund it as an international program, set it up an island somewhere, give them the resources to start, and then have a weekly TV reality show set up on the island that watches the communists up close and personal so we can follow developments. xyzde69 can be the first central committee chairman.

How long will it be before they try to censor the TV cameras, by threatening the crew with homemade clubs, saying we are "interfering in internal socialist affairs", not that we will allow it, we will get to see everything this time.

[Nobody1]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

How long will it be before they try to censor the TV cameras, by threatening the crew with homemade clubs, saying we are "interfering in internal socialist affairs", not that we will allow it, we will get to see everything this time.

Hmm...let me think....a paranoid island...ruled by a kleptocratic one-party system...whose geriatric Politburo threatens foreign media for purportedly intervening in their elections.

Sorry, I can not really put my finger on it, but I quite sure such an experiment already exists.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

have a weekly TV reality show set up on the island that watches the communists up close and personal so we can follow developments.

I'll agree with that, but I'd use drones and spy satellites ... no interaction with western media I say Put what if filmed on Cable TV ( comedy channel ? ) and let it pay for itself there,

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

I concur. We should fund it

I wouldn't ..... let them all be equally poor not a single cent ..... they don't need money anyway, xyzde has said we can exist without it, besides we'd only be funding a failed experiment, I'd rather use that money for real charity than a bunch spoiled left uni educated kids who have zero idea about the real world, like these ones here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqykEJTBdUg