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November 19th, 2017, 10:33 AM | #2371 | |
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I admit to being completely and utterly BORED with the infantile goings-on at Pestminster with what is the most important decision facing the UK in decades. But I was pi$$ed-off at the recent comments of Trump's Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross, who appeared to warn PM May against a closer alignment with the EU, post-Brexit. As I understand it Brexit was supposed to be the UK taking back control. Whatever decision the UK makes, be it good or ill, it will be OUR decision, and no-one else's. Or to quote from Winston Churchill, "What kind of people do they think we are?"
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So St. Theresa is prepared to double her money to 40 bn to get the trade talks moving and then Barnier spouts out that the offer would be for the UK to be under the EU's kosh - still 'in' whilst being out.
That sounds like having one's cake an eating it. And with Germany, who really call the shots - they shout and the other 25 roll over like faithful puppies - being in political limbo, can real progress be made ? |
November 21st, 2017, 12:51 PM | #2373 | |
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By result, the UK might be glad one day that -in this particular case- "the other 25 have rolled over like faithful puppies" .
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Funny old thing.
I don't remember any of the prominent leave campaigners mentioning that we'd have to fork out 40 billion quids to quit the E.U. Must have slipped their minds. They are busy people. |
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They probably didn't as it is commonly accepted practice in business that if you are a member of a club and you pay fees that you should honour your commitment to any decisions you were involved in prior to leaving.
I have more faith in Merkel than other European leaders and far ahead of the myriad career EU muppets. I do think she honestly realises a fair negotiated deal is good for both sides, I hope she can rein in Barmier and his cohorts.
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'Barmier' Why the fook did I not fink o dat ?
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November 21st, 2017, 06:28 PM | #2377 | |
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All the important decisions are always taken by the Council of Ministers (elected Heads of States) though this is ignored by many as it does not fit in with the 'Eurocrat' Brexit narrative. Last edited by vinceprince; November 22nd, 2017 at 02:38 PM.. |
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At the moment we pay £13 billion a year plus all other EU commitments such as MEPs....probably think 40 billion is cheap rather than the never-ending rise in EU bureaucracy, EU army, taxing of individual citizens by EU, etc.
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Maybe - but they still didn't mention it. All after the fact.
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