Politically Correct or Incorrect Bullshit Of The Day

[haroldeye]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Fine thing when you can't joke about raping little boys without people taking it the wrong way..

No one has ever accused Jimmy Carr of wrong doing and his stand up is outrageous.

[Old Jud]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

No one has ever accused Jimmy Carr of wrong doing and his stand up is outrageous.

Jimmy Carr was accused of being funny, thankfully we found him not guilty by unanimous decision......

[Old Jud]

Tha very naughty Muslim Amir Khan has been at it again......CLICK

Feck 'em Amir, they are a bunch of Islamaphobic racist (I can play the PC game too)

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by Brian249x

Come on, now, Hader made those tweets when he was a 17 year high school kid. He apologized and noted that he has grown up and is embarrassed by those tweets. He's getting sensitivity training.

But 7 to 10 year old stuff, I dunno. The reaction seems over the top.

I agree.. and that was my point. I think it's ridiculous that anyone's life should be ruined over something they tweeted that long ago. In both cases, somebody went looking for something to be offended by.. and they found it.

In one case, racist and homophobic tweets from 7 years ago are excusable (with proper penance).. in another, it's the end of a career. Is the only difference that one was 17 years old at the time?

If that's the case, should I ever get busted for anything, I'm going to tell the cops I identify as a 15-year-old.. and they have to charge me a juvenile.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by Decadence

I agree.. and that was my point. I think it's ridiculous that anyone's life should be ruined over something they tweeted that long ago. In both cases, somebody went looking for something to be offended by.. and they found it.

In one case, racist and homophobic tweets from 7 years ago are excusable (with proper penance).. in another, it's the end of a career. Is the only difference that one was 17 years old at the time?

If that's the case, should I ever get busted for anything, I'm going to tell the cops I identify as a 15-year-old.. and they have to charge me a juvenile.

I was just this morning reading a book about chess in the Soviet Union and the chapter about Stalin's purges. At least James Gunn hasn't got a bullet to the back of his neck.

Is it a free speech issue? If someone finds homosexuals annoying, shouldn't they be able to say so?

God help us all if these threads get out.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...56&postcount=1

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...03&postcount=1

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...63&postcount=1

Do you think we will get away by blaming Jenny and Max?

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Decadence

I agree.. and that was my point. I think it's ridiculous that anyone's life should be ruined over something they tweeted that long ago. In both cases, somebody went looking for something to be offended by.. and they found it.

You being a Libertarian I'm wondering why you have a problem with this? A business made a decision to protect its profits. businesses make decisions based on that motive everyday and a lot of times the people that are let-go didn't even have to say anything objectionable, they just are working in the area the company feels is too expensive as a Libertarian I thought it should have the "freedom" to do that why is that wrong now?

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

You being a Libertarian I'm wondering why you have a problem with this? A business made a decision to protect its profits. businesses make decisions based on that motive everyday and a lot of times the people that are let-go didn't even have to say anything objectionable, they just are working in the area the company feels is too expensive as a Libertarian I thought it should have the "freedom" to do that why is that wrong now?

My problem lies in the double standards, and the pointless knee-jerk reactions. As an investor, I'd much rather the business operate with decisions based on logic and reason rather than emotions. Emotions that are based on the perception of the potential for some sort of blowback in the event someone gets their knickers in a knot. Rather than play to win, they play not to lose. Big difference. Every time someone caves it only emboldens those who are hell bent on being offended by everything. Obviously, people are free to run their businesses how they want.. and must live with their choices.

Take Starbucks.. worried shitless over the recent alleged faux pas by a couple of their baristas... lost untold amounts in business for the day forcing their people through some sort of sensitivity training.. when the fact of the matter was nobody cared. Every Starbucks I went by during that whole time still had a line waiting around the building. All that time and money they spent trying to be "correct" was wasted.. nothing but a show for people who were going to stop for coffee regardless.

And the Brewers' pitcher.. who didn't get sacrificed. The Brewers didn't over-react, protected their investment, and he returned to a standing ovation... the very next game.

I and the readers of this thread now breathlessly await your feckless response.

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Take Starbucks.. worried shitless over the recent alleged faux pas by a couple of their baristas... lost untold amounts in business for the day forcing their people through some sort of sensitivity training.. when the fact of the matter was nobody cared. Every Starbucks I went by during that whole time still had a line waiting around the building. All that time and money they spent trying to be "correct" was wasted.. nothing but a show for people who were going to stop for coffee regardless.

Firms are too quick to apologise these days, genuine cases yes where there is actual distress or injury, that case is here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cq...5e9t/starbucks
The staff involved were idiots in the way they reacted by calling in the police, maybe they should concentrate more on training staff properly when they join and encouraging common sense, although it appears to be less common every single day.


As for the general point raised say same some weird looking thing was at the front of a queue and you were waiting to serve them I'd just say can I help you as who knows these days if it's a Paul, a Paula, a Paul living as a Paula, a Paula living as a Paul, a Paul who has bits of Paula etc ... ad nauseum.
They may be upset if you don't address them as sir, madam or thingy but as you say life goes on, the vast majority of us don't give a royal shit if a few spineless overly sensitive weirdos are upset by something, they should grow a pair (or lose a pair ) and move on; the whining dipshits.

Oh.... and yes I have had sensitivity training, works well doesn't it

[vannax]

I've always felt that there is something very unhealthy about collective apologies.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Me a problem lies in the double standards, and the pointless knee-jerk reactions. As an investor, I'd much rather the business operate with decisions based on logic and reason rather than emotions. Emotions that are based on the perception of the potential for some sort of blowback in the event someone gets their knickers in a knot. Rather than play to win, they play not to lose. Big difference. Every time someone caves it only emboldens those who are hell bent on being offended by everything. Obviously, people are free to run their businesses how they want.. and must live with their choices.

What do you mean by double standard? Yes they are afraid of blowback but more than that they're afraid of any subsequent incidents especially if they do not address the initial one that can make a loss that much worse. Any attorney worth his or her salt would love to show a pattern of you not addressing a problem whether it be sexual harassment or racial discrimination or anything of that nature.

Originally Posted by Decadence

Take Starbucks.. worried shitless over the recent alleged faux pas by a couple of their baristas... lost untold amounts in business for the day forcing their people through some sort of sensitivity training.. when the fact of the matter was nobody cared. Every Starbucks I went by during that whole time still had a line waiting around the building. All that time and money they spent trying to be "correct" was wasted.. nothing but a show for people who were going to stop for coffee regardless.

yeah let's talk about Starbucks. How's it a knee-jerk reaction for them to have sensitivity training but it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction for them to call the cops basically two minutes after the guys came into the store? Them doing the sensitivity training demonstrated that they took the matter seriously and was sort of an insurance policy in case the situation should arise again. You don't want to be a Cracker Barrel or especially a Denny's and have those situations pile up any comes out in court that you never addressed them those two companies paid something like 65 million dollars in settlements years ago, no telling what you would pay now.

Originally Posted by Decadence

And the Brewers' pitcher.. who didn't get sacrificed. The Brewers didn't over-react, protected their investment, and he returned to a standing ovation... the very next game.

if this is an isolated incident and nothing else comes of it more power to them you just hope that they did their homework thoroughly in this situation.

Originally Posted by Decadence

I and the readers of this thread now breathlessly await your feckless response.

well you know I couldn't keep my dorm fans waiting