the david lynch thread

**shlomotvr** · March 21st, 2013, 07:00 PM

in this thread i wish to discuss the enigmatic work of genius director - david lynch . for instance his film "lost highway " , i have seen it more then 8 times and still , as much as i enjoyd it i didnt understand what really happened there . same thing with " mulholland drive " - great film that crawls under the skin , but what is it about ?

**steamjon** · March 21st, 2013, 10:05 PM

Twin Peaks was good

Retrovintro · March 21st, 2013, 10:46 PM

Ive never seen Lost Highway, but I want to. I think I have seen everything else from Eraserhead on. My take on Mullholand drive is that it is Naomi Watts character's long dream sandwiched in between her fantasies of what she wants Hollywood to be for her and also what she envisions are the reasons behind her failures.

**Brecht** · March 21st, 2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shlomotvr

in this thread i wish to discuss the enigmatic work of genius director - david lynch . for instance his film "lost highway " , i have seen it more then 8 times and still , as much as i enjoyd it i didnt understand what really happened there . same thing with " mulholland drive " - great film that crawls under the skin , but what is it about ?

You missed the point because there is no point in most of his movies. Most of his work is full of postmodern nonsense. He is the ultimate postmodern guru among film makers after all and a nice example for how to make a movie about nothing and still being regarded as a genius. He certainly is a very talented director but what he offers the viewer are meaningless, yet beautiful images. I recommend you watch the documentary "David Wants to Fly" by David Sieveking to understand some of Lynch's influences. For me it explained all the nonsense I dislike about his movies. If you ask me, "The Elephant Man" is his most powerful movie to this day because it makes sense and leaves you assured that you've not wasted your time.

**Cheekymonkey** · March 22nd, 2013, 01:03 AM

David Lynch is undeniably an iconic film maker. You'd think his movies must have been conceived on Class A's, but according to him his inspiration came from his self-medicated 'sugar rushes'.

One film I saw ages ago was Eraserhead, which I found one of the weirdest unnerving films ever, with a pervading a sense of claustrophobia. Always intended to watch that again, to try to make sense of it, but need to be in the right mood, which I never seem to be. Twin Peaks was amazing but just petered out in a maze of incomprehensible weirdness. Other than Elephant Man, Dune, and Blue Velvet (which were kind-of off-centre mainstream, I get that his personal movies tend to be the celluloid version of a 'shaggy dog' story, and most I enjoyed, but after Wild At Heart (with Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway) I got the sense that he was trying too hard to out-weird himself, and the use of little people etc. just felt cliched. I still have to see The Straight Story for its simplicity.

**shlomotvr** · March 22nd, 2013, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Norbert84

You missed the point because there is no point in most of his movies. Most of his work is full of postmodern nonsense. He is the ultimate postmodern guru among film makers after all and a nice example for how to make a movie about nothing and still being regarded as a genius. He certainly is a very talented director but what he offers the viewer are meaningless, yet beautiful images. I recommend you watch the documentary "David Wants to Fly" by David Sieveking to understand some of Lynch's influences. For me it explained all the nonsense I dislike about his movies. If you ask me, "The Elephant Man" is his most powerful movie to this day because it makes sense and leaves you assured that you've not wasted your time.

the thing with his films is that he have philosophical ideas , they have aCertain depth , one can feel it , its not just post modern mambo jambo ( like other "artie " films ) . i know that he is into Transcendental Meditation , so that could give us some idea about his work . have you heard about bruno dumont ? another post modern director , he says that his films doesnt come from the mind rather then a certain feel . i do belive that this might be the case with mr lynch or at least part of it .

Retrovintro · March 22nd, 2013, 02:38 AM

How can a film not a have message,even if that message is to have no message- THATs the message. IMO Eraserhead's point was everything man touches, he fucks up.

**Reclaimedwg** · March 22nd, 2013, 06:16 AM

I like some of his movies (aside from anything in the Twin Peaks realm of course) and then some other of his stuff I find it to be despicable and disgusting and stomach churning (like Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart).

**shlomotvr** · March 22nd, 2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Retrovintro

How can a film not a have message,even if that message is to have no message- THATs the message. IMO Eraserhead's point was everything man touches, he fucks up.

couldnt agree more ! well said .

**Mad Koala Bear** · March 22nd, 2013, 08:26 PM

I was staying at the Paramount Hotel in NY way back, a hotel the lobby of which was straight out of a Lynch movie, whilst over there working on an Anthrax music video. DL was sitting at the next table to me one morning for breakfast and exchanged a few pleasantries. As it happened, Frank Silva, who played Bob the evil spirit in Twin Peaks was in the video we were shooting, playing an evil spirit.

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March 21st, 2013, 10:05 PM	#2
steamjon Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,109 Thanks: 6,188 Thanked 22,394 Times in 1,260 Posts	Twin Peaks was good

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Retrovintro Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 286 Thanks: 844 Thanked 1,781 Times in 250 Posts	Ive never seen Lost Highway, but I want to. I think I have seen everything else from Eraserhead on. My take on Mullholand drive is that it is Naomi Watts character's long dream sandwiched in between her fantasies of what she wants Hollywood to be for her and also what she envisions are the reasons behind her failures.

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Cheekymonkey Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wherever I Lay My Toupee Posts: 694 Thanks: 3,062 Thanked 14,875 Times in 686 Posts	David Lynch is undeniably an iconic film maker. You'd think his movies must have been conceived on Class A's, but according to him his inspiration came from his self-medicated 'sugar rushes'. One film I saw ages ago was Eraserhead, which I found one of the weirdest unnerving films ever, with a pervading a sense of claustrophobia. Always intended to watch that again, to try to make sense of it, but need to be in the right mood, which I never seem to be. Twin Peaks was amazing but just petered out in a maze of incomprehensible weirdness. Other than Elephant Man, Dune, and Blue Velvet (which were kind-of off-centre mainstream, I get that his personal movies tend to be the celluloid version of a 'shaggy dog' story, and most I enjoyed, but after Wild At Heart (with Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway) I got the sense that he was trying too hard to out-weird himself, and the use of little people etc. just felt cliched. I still have to see The Straight Story for its simplicity.

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Retrovintro Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 286 Thanks: 844 Thanked 1,781 Times in 250 Posts	How can a film not a have message,even if that message is to have no message- THATs the message. IMO Eraserhead's point was everything man touches, he fucks up.

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Reclaimedwg Vintage Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,414 Thanks: 7,709 Thanked 26,946 Times in 3,089 Posts	I like some of his movies (aside from anything in the Twin Peaks realm of course) and then some other of his stuff I find it to be despicable and disgusting and stomach churning (like Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart).