Questions for our British friends - Page 499

**philll_77** · October 18th, 2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

Most counties either end, or did end, with the word shire (although pronounced in the way Mal described in that context) - except for the older ones that were named in pre-conquest times like Sussex, Essex, Norfolk etc.

Rutland, yay!

**bloke57** · October 18th, 2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philll_77

Rutland, yay!

I read that there have been some instances where "Rutlandshire" has been recorded.

Glad it's back!

**Dr Pepper** · October 18th, 2018, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

I read that there have been some instances where "Rutlandshire" has been recorded.

Glad it's back!

At least once: http://www.poetry-archive.com/b/lord_lucky.html

**haroldeye** · October 18th, 2018, 08:32 PM

The posh people say Middlesbruh, the ones from Park End or Ormesby say Boro (mind the Ormesby lot call a roundabout a roundeebout and think the world ends at Swans Corner).

Still your Countship, I'm just a woolley back so what do I know.

**Mal Hombre** · October 18th, 2018, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

I read that there have been some instances where "Rutlandshire" has been recorded.

Glad it's back!

**Sir Honkers** · October 18th, 2018, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

"Woostershur" to be pedantic

Tomato, tomarto, potato, potarto....let's call the whole thing off!

**Greenman** · October 18th, 2018, 11:00 PM

Didn't Yosemite Sam say wooster-cester-shire sauce once in a cartoon?

**bloke57** · October 18th, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenman

Didn't Yosemite Sam say wooster-cester-shire sauce once in a cartoon?

Shishkabugs.

"Where's my hasenpfeffer!"

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bvb93

**bowlinggreen** · October 19th, 2018, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

A "shire" is pretty much the same as a county - divisions of land that were organised first in Saxon times and then became set by the Normans in the Domesday Book.

They were administered by officials called "reeves" and a "shire reeve" is the origin of the word sheriff.

Most counties either end, or did end, with the word shire (although pronounced in the way Mal described in that context) - except for the older ones that were named in pre-conquest times like Sussex, Essex, Norfolk etc.

Interesting. We can surmise that way back when, one of Christopher Reeve's great great great great great great granddaddies was the reeve of some old-time English shire then.

"Damn and blast, ye thieving varlet! If I catch you stealing pigs from the Lord's barn again I'll ram me halberd straight up between the cheeks of your arse!"

Googling "county", that appears to be of French origin. All US states are divided into counties, with the exception of Louisiana, which is divided into parishes. Which is also of French origin, that state originally being a French possession.

maxedout · October 19th, 2018, 09:04 AM

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Interesting. We can surmise that way back when, one of Christopher Reeve's great great great great great great granddaddies was the reeve of some old-time English shire then.

Not necessarily of a shire. Reeve was a general title for any official/magistrate down to local level. Or his ancestor could have been servant to a reeve (reeve's man).

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