When did shaved pussies become the norm in porn? - Page 2

Moa19 · November 16th, 2009, 09:41 PM

I think the shaved look became the norm in the late 90's. While that's what I always preferred, I am nostalgic of the times when a shaven pussy was the exception and full bush the norm. It made it all the more transgressive and erotic.

Having said that, I hope the shaven look will remain prevalent, at least in the real world.

**tamsmith** · November 16th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Come on folks. Some ladies like the hairy apeman look and some hate it.
Some people like the bush and some hate it.
Personally I don't like camouflage.
I like to see what I am getting.
I just could never understand why some folks got turned on by hair in the wrong place.
But I suppose there are people who love hair, be it, armpits, head hair or hairy legs.

My point being, we are all different.

And so, thankfully, are ladies.

**steamjon** · November 16th, 2009, 10:49 PM

When I first saw a shaven pussy in 1984 it looked ugh! I gradually got used to it but in the late 80s it became increasingly common.

These things coma and go in phases. In 5 years time someone will start a thread, do you remember when shaven pussies....

Biorgium · November 17th, 2009, 01:42 AM

I agree with those who say H*stl*r really pushed the trend towards hairless. At first I really despised the hairless look because to me it made the ladies look kinda pre-pubescent - not a turn on at all! I like to see women, not girls. (In general I never much liked Flynt's portrayal of women anyway; I was always a Pen*hou*e guy.)

On the other hand I would NOT like to see a return to the wild, huge bushes of the 60s-70s! I like to see a lady's cunt that looks appetizing, not one that might give you a mouthful of hair.

For me, both women and men look best with a bit of hair to show that they are adults, but neatly trimmed short. And of course you don't want to see hair anywhere near the anus at all; that just looks unclean to me.

GoldisMoney · November 17th, 2009, 01:53 AM

The first Playboy model to go completely bare in her centerfold was Dalene Kurtis (Sep 2001).

After that you start to notice the trend getting mainstream in Playboy around 2004.

spoonman2 · November 17th, 2009, 09:02 AM

"Neat", "unclean". I rest my case m'lud

Biorgium · November 17th, 2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonman2

"Neat", "unclean". I rest my case m'lud

Well, you're taking my words out of context a bit. I was advocating for trimmed bush, not shaved (ie scissors, not blade). The two have very different connotations. Trimmed is still natural, kinda.

As for "unclean" I was referring to crack hair on either gender, not pussy hair. Sorry, but it's a fact that you can't keep your back door as clean if there's a bunch of thick hair back there.

....or maybe we're just splitting hairs here

Nudist Couple · November 18th, 2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOHICA17

Marilyn Chambers was shaved and also had a piercing (diamond-studded pussy ring) as far back as 1980, so both of those fashion statements (at least in porn) can be traced back nearly 30 years.

By the mid-1980's, many pornstars (at least in the U.S.) were shaving their pussies: Samantha Strong,
Angel Kelly, Bionca, Blondi Bee, Careena Collins, Erica Boyer, Hyapatia Lee, Jeanna Fine, Kascha, Candie
Evans, Keisha, Nina Deponca -- even Seka -- to name just a few. This isn't a recent phenomenon, and it isn't a fad.

Cool...but none of those pictures you showed had the women shaved totally bald...which is the norm today. The bald pussy was a oddity going back to the early 80's to where they would have special editions of porn magazines or film loop and clips showing them...it was THAT out of the ordinary. What you linked there was the common practice of shaving the lips, but keeping a good amount of hair on top. My fond memories of the golden age of porn had all the women like this.

I guess I wasn't clear. I mean, thanks for taking the time and effort (seriously, loved those photos), but just trimming or shaving the lips isn't what I mean. It's rare today to see ANY hair. Maybe a slight strip here and there. I actually wouldn't mind them going back to the 80's way of doing things.

amomipeluda · November 18th, 2009, 10:52 PM

The OP said:
"So when was it that it became "normal" to have shaved pussies in porn? I'm guessing sometime in the 90's...maybe late 90's?"

Maybe we need to define "porn". Are you talking women who simply pose nude for photos or porn "actresses" trying to make a living in movies/videos?
It is also necessary to distinguish between the trimming and shaving that took place because visible hair looked too GOOD ( much like leaving a nipple uncovered) - this was the case way back through the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Women's pubic hair shrank because swimsuit bottoms became more and more high-cut. This trend actually reversed itself about 10 years ago.
No, somewhere along the line any pubic hair became BAD, and even parts that skimpy bottoms covered became shaved.

I don't know a lot about the history of porn films, but I understand there was a real heyday from about 1980 as videotape became available. Porn became a booming industry. Then I understand that somewhere around the early 90s, the AIDS scare devastated the industry. A number of porn stars died of it and many left the business. This was about the time that almost all women in porn started shaving completely. I have a weird theory that somehow the shaved look got associated with being "clean" and less likely to have disease. I know there is absolutely no scientific relationship between pubic hair and STDs, but I think an association grew up in people's minds. As the 90s turned into the new millinium , this association , murky and irrational as it was, transferred itself to society in general, especially as a multitude of STDs other than AIDS became a major concern. Of course the hair removal industry pounced on this and promoted it heavily, especially with products that specifically appealed to women.

So now shaved women are considered "safer" from an STD standpoint because they are "cleaner". I know personally, though I detest the saved look, I would prefer a pick-up or prostitute who was hairless. This is why I have no interest in either one.

spoonman2 · November 19th, 2009, 03:07 AM

Anomipeluda, that's certianly an intriguing theory. AIDS was certainly a strong turning point against the sexually liberal period of the 60s and 70s. My first thought though would be one of chronology; the manic shaving didn't start until considerably later than the AIDS scare started, which was early 80s. It would make sense though for a delay between the start of the disease and the effect on the industry.

Certainly (this is my point I'm generally making), hair is assoicated with dirt and disease; carrying lice and so on and just from comments in this forum from "baldies" we can see that everday association being made.

November 17th, 2009, 01:42 AM	#14
Biorgium Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pacific Canada Posts: 174 Thanks: 722 Thanked 1,956 Times in 176 Posts	I agree with those who say Hstlr really pushed the trend towards hairless. At first I really despised the hairless look because to me it made the ladies look kinda pre-pubescent - not a turn on at all! I like to see women, not girls. (In general I never much liked Flynt's portrayal of women anyway; I was always a Penhoue guy.) On the other hand I would NOT like to see a return to the wild, huge bushes of the 60s-70s! I like to see a lady's cunt that looks appetizing, not one that might give you a mouthful of hair. For me, both women and men look best with a bit of hair to show that they are adults, but neatly trimmed short. And of course you don't want to see hair anywhere near the anus at all; that just looks unclean to me. __________________ Be happy with what you have to be happy with...(and do cum often!) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Biorgium; November 17th, 2009 at 02:43 AM..

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November 16th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#11
Moa19 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 15 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	I think the shaved look became the norm in the late 90's. While that's what I always preferred, I am nostalgic of the times when a shaven pussy was the exception and full bush the norm. It made it all the more transgressive and erotic. Having said that, I hope the shaven look will remain prevalent, at least in the real world.

November 16th, 2009, 10:39 PM	#12
tamsmith Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coming close to the Slippery Slope. Posts: 7,800 Thanks: 77,915 Thanked 280,411 Times in 9,078 Posts	Come on folks. Some ladies like the hairy apeman look and some hate it. Some people like the bush and some hate it. Personally I don't like camouflage. I like to see what I am getting. I just could never understand why some folks got turned on by hair in the wrong place. But I suppose there are people who love hair, be it, armpits, head hair or hairy legs. My point being, we are all different. And so, thankfully, are ladies.

November 16th, 2009, 10:49 PM	#13
steamjon Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,109 Thanks: 6,188 Thanked 22,394 Times in 1,260 Posts	When I first saw a shaven pussy in 1984 it looked ugh! I gradually got used to it but in the late 80s it became increasingly common. These things coma and go in phases. In 5 years time someone will start a thread, do you remember when shaven pussies....

November 17th, 2009, 01:53 AM	#15
GoldisMoney Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 30 Thanks: 188 Thanked 621 Times in 27 Posts	The first Playboy model to go completely bare in her centerfold was Dalene Kurtis (Sep 2001). After that you start to notice the trend getting mainstream in Playboy around 2004.

November 17th, 2009, 09:02 AM	#16
spoonman2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 127 Thanks: 904 Thanked 1,640 Times in 114 Posts	"Neat", "unclean". I rest my case m'lud

November 18th, 2009, 10:52 PM	#19
amomipeluda Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 36 Thanks: 26 Thanked 394 Times in 34 Posts	The OP said: "So when was it that it became "normal" to have shaved pussies in porn? I'm guessing sometime in the 90's...maybe late 90's?" Maybe we need to define "porn". Are you talking women who simply pose nude for photos or porn "actresses" trying to make a living in movies/videos? It is also necessary to distinguish between the trimming and shaving that took place because visible hair looked too GOOD ( much like leaving a nipple uncovered) - this was the case way back through the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Women's pubic hair shrank because swimsuit bottoms became more and more high-cut. This trend actually reversed itself about 10 years ago. No, somewhere along the line any pubic hair became BAD, and even parts that skimpy bottoms covered became shaved. I don't know a lot about the history of porn films, but I understand there was a real heyday from about 1980 as videotape became available. Porn became a booming industry. Then I understand that somewhere around the early 90s, the AIDS scare devastated the industry. A number of porn stars died of it and many left the business. This was about the time that almost all women in porn started shaving completely. I have a weird theory that somehow the shaved look got associated with being "clean" and less likely to have disease. I know there is absolutely no scientific relationship between pubic hair and STDs, but I think an association grew up in people's minds. As the 90s turned into the new millinium , this association , murky and irrational as it was, transferred itself to society in general, especially as a multitude of STDs other than AIDS became a major concern. Of course the hair removal industry pounced on this and promoted it heavily, especially with products that specifically appealed to women. So now shaved women are considered "safer" from an STD standpoint because they are "cleaner". I know personally, though I detest the saved look, I would prefer a pick-up or prostitute who was hairless. This is why I have no interest in either one.

November 19th, 2009, 03:07 AM	#20
spoonman2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 127 Thanks: 904 Thanked 1,640 Times in 114 Posts	Anomipeluda, that's certianly an intriguing theory. AIDS was certainly a strong turning point against the sexually liberal period of the 60s and 70s. My first thought though would be one of chronology; the manic shaving didn't start until considerably later than the AIDS scare started, which was early 80s. It would make sense though for a delay between the start of the disease and the effect on the industry. Certainly (this is my point I'm generally making), hair is assoicated with dirt and disease; carrying lice and so on and just from comments in this forum from "baldies" we can see that everday association being made.