Hello John Got A New iMac - Page 2

**monogroover** · January 26th, 2011, 01:56 PM

I voted 'Windows' in this poll, but actually at least one recent version of Windows is every bit as bad as OS X.

Also - to a degree, it's Apples* and oranges. It depends what you want to do. But for general browsing, email, watching videos, word-processing and other run-of-the-mill domestic tasks, I'd buy a Windows box over a Mac every time - much better choice of hardware and more robust, despite its vulnerability to viruses.

Provided I didn't have to use Vista.

Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice. I use Linux.

*see what I did there?

**palo5** · January 26th, 2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monogroover

As an IT specialist who had to work with them, I'd certainly never buy one myself

I wouldn't buy one because a) they''re too expensive; b) they don't always run the software you want; c) they seem designed not to allow hardware or software changes; and d) they can crash local networks

Quote:

. By some distance the worst implementation of Unix I've ever had to work with

Exactly

**otokonomidori** · January 26th, 2011, 03:36 PM

I've only ever had Apple computers - four in total - I've still got them all and they all still work perfectly, even the original iMac I got in 1998 goes fine although it's ancient OS 9 operating system means that it's too outdated for daily use.

I've never had a virus and I've never had a crash.

I don't know anything about PCs except that they are horrible to look at and they are popular among the financially challenged.

**Name-Hunter** · January 26th, 2011, 03:55 PM

This small reply is being written on a 2002 MDD
Never a serious problem with this or any of my other 60+ Macs [I manage the families' computers as well...hence the large #] since 1988.
I own virus software...but never use it.
Beware of IT pros who knock Macs...they are protecting their bottom line.

MaxJoker · January 26th, 2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fleetwood77

and they are popular among the financially challenged

Well we can`t all be like you can we you little F`er

For those who don`t know Fleets made his fortune through giving shines

Not to shoes though.

He was a mugger

**otokonomidori** · January 26th, 2011, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSkull

Well we can`t all be like you can we you little F`er

For those who don`t know Fleets made his fortune through giving shines

Not to shoes though.

He was a mugger

“Ordinary riches can be stolen, real riches cannot. In your soul are infinitely precious things that cannot be taken from you.”

**monogroover** · January 26th, 2011, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name-Hunter

Beware of IT pros who knock Macs...they are protecting their bottom line.

Or, in my case, making a balanced and informed assessment from experience.

**HugoHackenbush** · January 27th, 2011, 03:45 PM

I own three computers. One PC runs Windows XP. One PC runs Vista. and one is an iMac.

From a dead boot, the XP PC takes 20 minutes for it to get to a point where I can work on it. Therefore I leave it on all the time, and if perchance it reboots to Log In page overnight, then I might as well fix my morning tea and get a paper because I'll be waiting 20 min.

Both the XP PC and the Vista PC have the problem that the Windows "background" programs suddenly are active and take up all the available memory, locking the computer. I go to Task Manager and stop them, only to have them re-activate themselves a few minutes later. The Vista PC is particularly bad in this regard, often locking up my computer from 30-45 minutes at a time. Yes I have absolutely up to the minute Anti Virus and spyware, programs.

The Mac does none of these things. Now, there's no need to be smug about the lack of viruses for the Mac. The reason there aren't Mac viruses is that the Mac is such an insignificant share of the market that a hacker won't waste their time writing one.

At the end of the day I just want the thing to work, no muss, no fuss, no crashes, no lock-ups. The Mac does that. The Windows PC's do not.

**blondifan** · January 27th, 2011, 04:15 PM

Windows Movie Maker

I don't think this has ever worked properly from day one, like just about every other programme on my pc.
This is my fourth. I'm hard pressed to think of a single programme that does function properly.
Fair enough, the software is generally not from microsoft, but then isn't that the problem?

I realise that this will upset some (hey, what about me?

) and fair enough if this post gets deleted. I wish i'd listened to my mac user friend more before i bought my current pc. Mac's are the only way to make music!

I started by using IBM in the eighties where i worked. Never had any grief, but then there was no internet either.

**palo5** · January 27th, 2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HugoHackenbush

From a dead boot, the XP PC takes 20 minutes for it to get to a point where I can work on it

My XP machine was like that. But it happened gradually. One day I timed it, and sure enough it took around 12 minutes. That was too much even for me. So I upgraded the memory from 512 MB to 2 GB and the boot time went down to about 90 seconds

Now I have a Vista machine with 8 GB memory, and the boot time is acceptable. But if it has an external hard drive connected when booting, it takes much longer to recognize than if I connect it after booting. No idea why

View Poll Results: Your Computer Preferences
Windows	16	37.21%
Mac	24	55.81%
Windows But Want A Mac	3	6.98%
Mac But Want Windows	0	0%
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January 27th, 2011, 03:45 PM	#18
HugoHackenbush Veteran Marxist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever it's warm Posts: 14,091 Thanks: 205,891 Thanked 336,065 Times in 14,143 Posts	I just want the thing to work I own three computers. One PC runs Windows XP. One PC runs Vista. and one is an iMac. From a dead boot, the XP PC takes 20 minutes for it to get to a point where I can work on it. Therefore I leave it on all the time, and if perchance it reboots to Log In page overnight, then I might as well fix my morning tea and get a paper because I'll be waiting 20 min. Both the XP PC and the Vista PC have the problem that the Windows "background" programs suddenly are active and take up all the available memory, locking the computer. I go to Task Manager and stop them, only to have them re-activate themselves a few minutes later. The Vista PC is particularly bad in this regard, often locking up my computer from 30-45 minutes at a time. Yes I have absolutely up to the minute Anti Virus and spyware, programs. The Mac does none of these things. Now, there's no need to be smug about the lack of viruses for the Mac. The reason there aren't Mac viruses is that the Mac is such an insignificant share of the market that a hacker won't waste their time writing one. At the end of the day I just want the thing to work, no muss, no fuss, no crashes, no lock-ups. The Mac does that. The Windows PC's do not. Last edited by HugoHackenbush; January 27th, 2011 at 07:54 PM..

January 27th, 2011, 04:15 PM	#19
blondifan Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,406 Thanks: 54,993 Thanked 60,208 Times in 4,401 Posts	Three Words. Windows Movie Maker I don't think this has ever worked properly from day one, like just about every other programme on my pc. This is my fourth. I'm hard pressed to think of a single programme that does function properly. Fair enough, the software is generally not from microsoft, but then isn't that the problem? I realise that this will upset some (hey, what about me? ) and fair enough if this post gets deleted. I wish i'd listened to my mac user friend more before i bought my current pc. Mac's are the only way to make music! I started by using IBM in the eighties where i worked. Never had any grief, but then there was no internet either.

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January 26th, 2011, 01:56 PM	#11
monogroover Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Midlands Posts: 505 Thanks: 1,357 Thanked 7,735 Times in 521 Posts	I voted 'Windows' in this poll, but actually at least one recent version of Windows is every bit as bad as OS X. Also - to a degree, it's Apples* and oranges. It depends what you want to do. But for general browsing, email, watching videos, word-processing and other run-of-the-mill domestic tasks, I'd buy a Windows box over a Mac every time - much better choice of hardware and more robust, despite its vulnerability to viruses. Provided I didn't have to use Vista. Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice. I use Linux. *see what I did there?

January 26th, 2011, 03:36 PM	#13
otokonomidori 緑の男 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jockistan, UK. Posts: 8,315 Thanks: 39,015 Thanked 122,396 Times in 8,315 Posts	I've only ever had Apple computers - four in total - I've still got them all and they all still work perfectly, even the original iMac I got in 1998 goes fine although it's ancient OS 9 operating system means that it's too outdated for daily use. I've never had a virus and I've never had a crash. I don't know anything about PCs except that they are horrible to look at and they are popular among the financially challenged.

January 26th, 2011, 03:55 PM	#14
Name-Hunter Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,848 Thanks: 33,182 Thanked 250,840 Times in 8,773 Posts	This small reply is being written on a 2002 MDD Never a serious problem with this or any of my other 60+ Macs [I manage the families' computers as well...hence the large #] since 1988. I own virus software...but never use it. Beware of IT pros who knock Macs...they are protecting their bottom line.