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I am an atheist, I admit I do not believe in a sentient all powerful creator. Whether there is a creative force out there that is a different thing, if so I don't think it needs to be worshipped, we are just part of its grand design and it will be as unaware of us as we are of individual microbes. The universe is so vast and the Earth is so small, what makes so many us believe we are so special as to be God's chosen. |
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I didn't try to convert anyone, I've no interest in making anyone agree with me or trying to disprove what you believe. IMO we each have to find our own way. One thing I am pretty sure of, any zealot/fundamentalist can be a colossal pain in the neck. Whatever religion they espouse - or none - someone who won't listen and simply tries to be dogmatic and 'correct' you is annoying. Richard Dawkins is a good example. I agree with a lot of what he believes, he has some well-constructed arguments, but he's so smug I want to disagree with him !
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Reading Jeff's post above reminds me of when my homework went walkies. The guy in dog collar ignored the letter my dad wrote, and placed his hands on my shoulders and started to shake me. He had a west of Ireland accent and shouted "shake the devil out of you my child" evil bastard
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What is 'fundamentalist' about saying there's probably no God?
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As for atheists 'Condemning others' this is pure nonsense. When have you ever seen a theist burnt at the stake (or any other death sentence) in the name of atheism? Never, but Christianity killed off most Pagans by saying they were witches & the Bible says 'Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. Don't give me that 'Hitler was an atheist murderer' bullsh!t. He killed in the name of National Socialism not atheism. Actually he invoked god in order to justify fascism. -Here's a direct quote from Mein Kampf: 'What we must fight is to safeguard the existence & reproduction of our race & our people, the sustenance of our children & the purity of our blood, the freedom & independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe' (If you doubt this is in his book, it's on page 214) Last edited by howerd; April 15th, 2012 at 11:04 PM.. Reason: Removed bold font. Do you remember what I said about shouting? |
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Hey now! Let's all play nice here! Everyone is entitled to their opinions without being referred to as "rubbish" and "tosh". And likewise I don't see why invoking Herr Schicklegruber was necessary to make your point. In fact what does he have to do with this conversation at all. I understand and appreciate both your points but lets be respectful of each other. What the hell, oops sorry wrong thread, is the name of that theory about Herr Schicklegruber that Fleetwood77 brought to our attention awhile back? Anyone remember? I think it applies here. So lets all be respectful of each other and play nicely. This thread has been very well tempered and quite interesting to hear everyone's opinions. Lets keep it that way.
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Oh and Howerd - can you switch bold font off - please ? You come across as someone shouting, which takes from your points. Thanks.
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Thanks Keef I did say when I opened this thread to play nice, or it will be trashed. Sometimes you have to agree to disagree.
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So is there a perfect or nearly perfect religion?
Say for whatever reason you had to join a religion or church which would it be? My knowledge of Buddhism is limited, but what I do know seems appealing. I have never heard of Buddhist terrorism or violence of any sort. They seem to preach, and more importantly practice, peace and tolerance. Their emphasis on self realization and growth is also attractive. What of Amish, Mennonite and Hutterite? They believe in a simpler life, free of violence and focused on family and community. They are ,for the most part, completely self sufficient for food, clothing and shelter. The most strict adherents have none of the modern world. They use no electricity, radio, television or powered vehicles. Some Hutterite sects have loosened the ties to the point they drive trucks and tractors, trade furniture and food with the outside world and even live outside the commune. Some of this I know from personal experience as I had the pleasure to attend college with some Hutterites and they were the nicest, least pretentious students at school. I know there are a myriad of others, Hinduism, Shamanism, Rastafarian, et al. I'd be interested in hearing what other members think. When you became dissatisfied with your given religion did you investigate alternatives? What qualities would a religion have to have to entice / attract you or have you had your fill and nothing will suffice? |
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