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Old May 13th, 2012, 08:46 AM   #111
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Ride a Chally my friend.

Almost made me want to be a tankie!
A "Chally" ?

If you mean an English Challenger tank, clearly they are very good. Possibly they even have Cappuccino machines and microwave ovens in the turret to make life easier

But life in a tank is not good, and all the machines break down sooner or later. Maybe it's because they're painted green. It doesn't matter whose tank you're in

Volunteer for track maintenance, and your love of tanks will disappear. Permanently. Unless you are a masochist
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Old May 13th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #112
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Volunteer for track maintenance, and your love of tanks will disappear. Permanently. Unless you are a masochist
I have heard stories and read accounts of the unlucky people having to clean the treds and torsion bars after the tank has been out in the field. I don't envy any one who has to go in and chip and clean off the mud and other stuff at the end of the day. Tanks have a glamorous image, but it's lots of work to keep a tank running.

Definitely not a job I want to have to do day in day out...
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Old May 13th, 2012, 09:48 AM   #113
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There was a story that the Americans left an Abrams with unfixable engine problems in the care of a Brit REME workshops in Um Qasr in April 2003. Apparently the Reems (always more interested in playing with new things than fixing Brit kit) had the thing moving in less than an hour.

Never did find out if they gave it back.
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But life in a tank is not good, and all the machines break down sooner or later. Maybe it's because they're painted green. It doesn't matter whose tank you're in
It would be easier in a British or US tank,Soviet tanks are very cramped inside,Only the shorter Red Army soldiers could serve in Them...
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #115
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The Centurion was actually in production at the end of the war.
And the Abrams was totally outclassed by the Challenger.And don't forget the Chobham armour.
I live (in the direction of) Chobham and I've seen Abrahams and Challengers on the backs of transporters. Thats how i found out US tanks use Chobham armour however the stuff we give them isn't as good as the stuff we use. (Apparently!)
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...I don't envy any one who has to go in and chip and clean off the mud and other stuff at the end of the day...
You can clean them with pressure hoses, or not even clean them at all - they still ought to work

The worst is when your driver (it's always him) breaks a track in the middle of nowhere, it's cold, it's night, everyone hates each other, and you still have to fix the thing otherwise you're going nowhere. Tracks are hard work

In fact, even on sunny days on a hard, flat surface Tracks can be hard work. Only women are worse
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Palo let me correct that for you,

It's cold, it's night and the driver throws track in the largest pool of freezing water for twenty miles.

And you are so right about the women.
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Sounds like you two have had some knowledge of the steel beasts!
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I have watched them with great amusement thankful that such splendid creatures were nothing to do with me!
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I live (in the direction of) Chobham and I've seen Abrahams and Challengers on the backs of transporters. Thats how i found out US tanks use Chobham armour however the stuff we give them isn't as good as the stuff we use. (Apparently!)
This statement makes no sense. The brits and Americans have been friends since before world war 1. The Americans and the brits have been helping each other since. Just like the Americans have given the brits there fire control systems for British tanks the brits have given the Americans Chobham Armor the the American tanks. This is just one example of cooperation. Britain is one of the few country's that can get American jets with all the bells. and the Americans have access to the great Rolls Royce engines Lets remember at the time these tanks were designed we were in the middle of the colds war and the brits and the Americans were facing a large eastern block tank force
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