Germany

[LusciousLarry]

Originally Posted by tamsmith

Sorry Norbert. Yes part of the system but some have never ever contributed to the system. Taken yes. More so here in Beerland.

I think in a perfect world all would contribute. Unfortunately in every civilization and society there are parasites.

[otokonomidori]

My Uncle Eddy said that every single time he went to Germany they tried to kill him.

[Nobody1]

Originally Posted by tamsmith

Sorry Norbert. Yes part of the system but some have never ever contributed to the system. Taken yes. More so here in Beerland.

You're right. There are people who take more from this system than they morally deserve. But if one starts from the assumption that full employment is increasingly unrealistic because of increasing rationalization and increasing shift of jobs to low wage countries, it's perfectly normal that there is a proportional and permanent unemployed mass. It's still the much smaller and above all the cheaper thing for our society to allow also unemployed people a decent life.

The money is not anchored in their wallets. It flows back into the economic cycle. It helps to stimulate the domestic economy and to secure jobs at home. This closes the circle.

[Nobody1]

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

My Uncle Eddy said that every single time he went to Germany they tried to kill him.

That wasn't Germany. That was Bavaria, and Bavaria is abroad.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by rockernut

I must say it's a total blast riding the autobahn, no speedlimits!

It's not true there are no speed limits - there are speed limits in many places. And Autobahns are seriously full of trucks, about a gazillion per km, maybe more. So it can be hard to drive fast, even if you own a Porsche

The best time to drive is Sunday morning, before the 'Sunday drivers' arrive

[palo5]

Originally Posted by tamsmith

Yes part of the system but some have never ever contributed to the system

Everyone in Germany contributes and pays tax, even if it's 'only' sales tax. I don't know how anyone could 'not contribute' in some way. Even if they lived in a bubble, I don't know how they could 'not contribute'

[tamsmith]

Originally Posted by palo5

Everyone in Germany contributes and pays tax, even if it's 'only' sales tax. I don't know how anyone could 'not contribute' in some way. Even if they lived in a bubble, I don't know how they could 'not contribute'

Excellent.

Now I need to try and persuade a Government to give me "free" money so that I can spend it and pay a tax. I wonder if that would work if everyone tried it??

[tamsmith]

Originally Posted by Nobody1

You're right. There are people who take more from this system than they morally deserve. But if one starts from the assumption that full employment is increasingly unrealistic because of increasing rationalization and increasing shift of jobs to low wage countries, it's perfectly normal that there is a proportional and permanent unemployed mass. It's still the much smaller and above all the cheaper thing for our society to allow also unemployed people a decent life.

The money is not anchored in their wallets. It flows back into the economic cycle. It helps to stimulate the domestic economy and to secure jobs at home. This closes the circle.

Sorry, Nobody, I did not mean to give the impression that I was talking about the unemployed. In the past and just now, I have joined their ranks.

However I was talking about the "never employed or even tried to be employed".

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

My Uncle Eddy said that every single time he went to Germany they tried to kill him.

Would this have been during the 1940's by any chance ?

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Would this have been during the 1940's by any chance ?