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Old 03-08-2018, 03:11 PM   #4201
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In several French suburban areas, there sometimes are areas called "zone de non droit" ("Non right areas").

They are areas where the police, firemen, ambulances are afraid or even don't go anymore, because they can face shotguns or stone throws, caused by the vermins who dictate unfair rules even to the local suburban population.

Do you get these problems in UK cities too?
The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.

I can say (having asked a friend who is in the Police Service) that thankfully shotguns and firearms are, even now, very rarely involved here - and any such incident would be met with rapid, full armed response.
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The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.
In my fire service area there has always been areas where crews have to have backup when attending incidents. Usually it is nothing more than sending an extra pump - one to put the fire out and one to watch the backs of the working crew and stop stuff being nicked off their machine..

One reason why nowadays fire pumps are fitted with all-round CCTV. Didn't have it when I rode the machines sadly..

I have attended incidents where we have come "under fire" from missiles thrown from blocks of flats. I have even seen a washing machine "fall" from a ninth story balcony while crews were working below at a fire in a rubbish shute. Stone throwers are common at incidents.. Police are called but usually by the time they arrive the perpetrators are long gone.



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Given your location Grouchy, I'm surprised at that sort of behaviour. Leeds ,maybe, but surely not Brid or any of the other coastal resorts. Couldn't you sort of turn a high pressure hose on them, just by accident you understand.
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The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.

I can say (having asked a friend who is in the Police Service) that thankfully shotguns and firearms are, even now, very rarely involved here - and any such incident would be met with rapid, full armed response.
Gee...and here we've been told by the US news media, and people on internet forums, etc etc, that such things don't exist in Europe...that it's all right wing paranoia.

It's the same way in parts of major cities in America.

I have relatives in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area. Almost all of them are either firemen or police of some kind. One of my relatives was a fireman/paramedic told me that both he and his partner carried a pistol on them at all times, and had another pistol and shotgun stashed in their ambulance in case they needed more firepower. As he put it "There are places we can go where, if you're white, or wearing a uniform, they'll shoot you no questions asked. They don't care if you're there to save their dying grandmother, they'll still shoot you."
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To my ear, the Northern Irish accent (think Ian Paisle) always sounded the most."American" of the British accents. There's the rolled R, but there's some other similarity as well

To a British ear, do you hear that?
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No,I don't actually,There are some accents from the West of the Irish Republic which sound more American than Irish,They are sometimes very hard to pinpoint.
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To my ear, the Northern Irish accent (think Ian Paisle) always sounded the most."American" of the British accents. There's the rolled R, but there's some other similarity as well

To a British ear, do you hear that?
After listening to an Ulsterman for any prolonged period, you'd be lucky to be able to hear at all!
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Given your location Grouchy, I'm surprised at that sort of behaviour. Leeds ,maybe, but surely not Brid or any of the other coastal resorts. Couldn't you sort of turn a high pressure hose on them, just by accident you understand.

Leeds is out of my old brigade area.. Hull was a real problem area though.

Trust me when I say that hose-reel jets have wandered off target on many occasions. Been hit with a lump of water at 150lb pressure usually has the desired effect of moving people along..

A notorious estate to the north of Hull used to have high-rise flats - now demolished - and that was bad for stuff dropping on you from the upper floors. Literally everything and anything including sofas, tellys and dog shite rained down.
There is also another estate in Hull - used to be the biggest council estate in Europe - that had a two-pump station on it. Visitors to the station there were advised to check below the door handles before entering the buildings. The little darlings had a habit of sticking razor blades beneath the handles..

The general public can be real charmers at times..


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