Questions for our British friends - Page 425

**Roubignol** · March 8th, 2018, 08:33 AM

In several French suburban areas, there sometimes are areas called "zone de non droit" ("Non right areas").

They are areas where the police, firemen, ambulances are afraid or even don't go anymore, because they can face shotguns or stone throws, caused by the vermins who dictate unfair rules even to the local suburban population.

Do you get these problems in UK cities too?

**BCFC_1982** · March 8th, 2018, 11:09 AM

Yes. It's called Brighton.

**vinceprince** · March 8th, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xyzde69

In several French suburban areas, there sometimes are areas called "zone de non droit" ("Non right areas").

They are areas where the police, firemen, ambulances are afraid or even don't go anymore, because they can face shotguns or stone throws, caused by the vermins who dictate unfair rules even to the local suburban population.

Do you get these problems in UK cities too?

Traditionally these were inner city areas rather than suburbs like the riots in the 80s in Liverpool, Brixton and Tottenham. Suburbs are more middle class areas. There has been some regeneration and 'yuppiefication' of some of these inner city areas since then.

Today they are probably more likely to be Chav housing estates in provincial towns with high car and drug crime.

**vinceprince** · March 8th, 2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BCFC_1982

Yes. It's called Brighton.

The Whitehawk Estate definitely, a mate of mine was a Policeman there said it was full scum and you couldn't leave a car unattended long without it being vandalised or stolen.

**bloke57** · March 8th, 2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xyzde69

In several French suburban areas, there sometimes are areas called "zone de non droit" ("Non right areas").

They are areas where the police, firemen, ambulances are afraid or even don't go anymore, because they can face shotguns or stone throws, caused by the vermins who dictate unfair rules even to the local suburban population.

Do you get these problems in UK cities too?

The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.

I can say (having asked a friend who is in the Police Service) that thankfully shotguns and firearms are, even now, very rarely involved here - and any such incident would be met with rapid, full armed response.

**judy84** · March 14th, 2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

We must root out these unpaired words,We must be ruthless..

I go to the dentist tomorrow so I might end up like Britain's response to the spy poisoning....toothless. Mind you I have never been very trooful.

**Grouchy** · March 14th, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.

In my fire service area there has always been areas where crews have to have backup when attending incidents. Usually it is nothing more than sending an extra pump - one to put the fire out and one to watch the backs of the working crew and stop stuff being nicked off their machine..

One reason why nowadays fire pumps are fitted with all-round CCTV. Didn't have it when I rode the machines sadly..

I have attended incidents where we have come "under fire" from missiles thrown from blocks of flats. I have even seen a washing machine "fall" from a ninth story balcony while crews were working below at a fire in a rubbish shute. Stone throwers are common at incidents.. Police are called but usually by the time they arrive the perpetrators are long gone.

**haroldeye** · March 14th, 2018, 01:47 PM

Given your location Grouchy, I'm surprised at that sort of behaviour. Leeds ,maybe, but surely not Brid or any of the other coastal resorts. Couldn't you sort of turn a high pressure hose on them, just by accident you understand.

**cginok** · March 14th, 2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bloke57

The emergency services don't want to admit to "no go" areas - but there are certainly many "reluctant to go except in numbers" areas.

I can say (having asked a friend who is in the Police Service) that thankfully shotguns and firearms are, even now, very rarely involved here - and any such incident would be met with rapid, full armed response.

Gee...and here we've been told by the US news media, and people on internet forums, etc etc, that such things don't exist in Europe...that it's all right wing paranoia.

It's the same way in parts of major cities in America.

I have relatives in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area. Almost all of them are either firemen or police of some kind. One of my relatives was a fireman/paramedic told me that both he and his partner carried a pistol on them at all times, and had another pistol and shotgun stashed in their ambulance in case they needed more firepower. As he put it "There are places we can go where, if you're white, or wearing a uniform, they'll shoot you no questions asked. They don't care if you're there to save their dying grandmother, they'll still shoot you."

**deepsepia** · March 14th, 2018, 07:52 PM

To my ear, the Northern Irish accent (think Ian Paisle) always sounded the most."American" of the British accents. There's the rolled R, but there's some other similarity as well

To a British ear, do you hear that?

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March 8th, 2018, 08:33 AM	#4241
Roubignol Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mice Planet Posts: 3,882 Thanks: 15,974 Thanked 29,726 Times in 3,826 Posts	In several French suburban areas, there sometimes are areas called "zone de non droit" ("Non right areas"). They are areas where the police, firemen, ambulances are afraid or even don't go anymore, because they can face shotguns or stone throws, caused by the vermins who dictate unfair rules even to the local suburban population. Do you get these problems in UK cities too?

March 14th, 2018, 01:47 PM	#4248
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,716 Thanks: 113,534 Thanked 59,972 Times in 5,708 Posts	Given your location Grouchy, I'm surprised at that sort of behaviour. Leeds ,maybe, but surely not Brid or any of the other coastal resorts. Couldn't you sort of turn a high pressure hose on them, just by accident you understand.

March 14th, 2018, 07:52 PM	#4250
deepsepia Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Upper left corner Posts: 7,205 Thanks: 47,961 Thanked 83,458 Times in 7,199 Posts	To my ear, the Northern Irish accent (think Ian Paisle) always sounded the most."American" of the British accents. There's the rolled R, but there's some other similarity as well To a British ear, do you hear that?